I always say, if the Shoes Fits, strut it proudly
So what you guys are saying, is that this individual don't speak for all Whyte People ...
Hummmm ... I wonder if she also has any Chicago expertise, being that she's in Portland.
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I always say, if the Shoes Fits, strut it proudly
So what you guys are saying, is that this individual don't speak for all Whyte People ...
Hummmm ... I wonder if she also has any Chicago expertise, being that she's in Portland.
There was like zero chance of this thread turning into anything remotely productive.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
The definition of "racism" proposed in the OP is far from new. I think I heard it first more than thirty years ago, in a televised panel discussion on the subject.
Cigar, would you be willing to try to explain to me why you think that this definition is more fair and accurate than a definition which would permit individuals other than White people to be guilty of racism?
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
I was responding to Safety... who appears to know more about how I feel than I do. But, I'll try to stipulate to your conditions. Some of us whites may have been black a few times in our lives. There are some experiences that black people think are unique to them and their situations, but they really aren't. I might be black.
Insofar as slavery, you are no more impacted by that than I am - having had ancestors that were slaves and that includes a 400 year period. We need to live in the here and now.
resister (02-16-2017)
That seems to be the object of contention.Paula Rothenberg offers this more pointed—and useful--definition of racism.
"Racism involves the subordination of people of color by white people. While individual persons of color may well discriminate against a white person or another person of color because of their race, this does not qualify as racism according to our definition because that person of color cannot depend upon all the institutions of society to enforce or extend his or her personal dislike. Nor can he or she call upon the force of history to reflect and enforce that prejudice. . . . History provides us with a long record of white people holding and using power and privilege over people of color to subordinate them,not the reverse."(Paula Rothenberg. Defining Racism and Sexism)
My impression of what Rothenberg is trying to say is racism is where those of one race subordinate another race with institutional backing. He seems to be saying racism requires institutional subordination. He mentions white subordinating black not because that's the only possibility but because that's likely all he can think of. Things like a white only section becomes racist when the police come in and beat and arrest blacks who don't comply. Or maybe when whites beat blacks for not complying while the police do nothing.
If the four Chicago residents who kidnapped, beat and tortured a disabled White man, screaming racial epithets the whole time, are not racists, then - who is?
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
Cthulhu (02-17-2017),FindersKeepers (02-17-2017),resister (02-17-2017)