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    How do land restrictions effect commercial real estate values in nearby areas ?

    For example NYS owns 1/2 of the Adirondack "Park" and through the APA restricts land use in the other half . When that's not enough the Sierra Club loses their map and gets involved.

    So I started thinking : How nice for owners, realtors, etc in terms of commercial real estate in other areas. Especially the Saratoga/Albany area or maybe Plattssburg/ Burlington, but with wider ripple effects over time.

    Then I thought well many areas across the nation are in similar circumstances . Imagine the effect if the federal government sold off portions of their parks to oh say pay down the debt?
    Rich people could get hurt.

    And we say the libs and cons don't both profit from the same thing? LOL The free land market, like most of our markets , is simply not free.

    Food for thought. However, there are likely restrictions on how and where you grow that food ( like in some places not in your own yard)

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    Disclaimer for the ultra literal among you. This post is to illustrate how little things ( unless you live in one of these areas) that we take for granted actually effect our supposed free markets . Those effects then riple etc.
    I AM NOT claiming that land use restriction or tax payer owned land is all bad , nor am I claiming it is even the main factor interfering with free market real estate.
    I AM pointing out the existence of "hidden" restrictions" on the existence of the free markets some still believe to exist.

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    Honestly I don't know if this is related, but one of my friends just lost a $5,000 bid for a plumbing gig because the property owner wanted to build three (Airbnb) buildings, but the state said the property was only slated for one commercial building... this is North Eastern Vermont close to two hours from Burlington...

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    A lot in a small town is worth 1.3 million dollars because it is the only place in the whole county where you can build a strip club.

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    The Rodents WHINE about the high cost of housing.

    The Rodents DEMAND total bans on the construction of new housing.

    These are not unrelated matters.
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jigglepete View Post
    Honestly I don't know if this is related, but one of my friends just lost a $5,000 bid for a plumbing gig because the property owner wanted to build three (Airbnb) buildings, but the state said the property was only slated for one commercial building... this is North Eastern Vermont close to two hours from Burlington...
    It's certainly related to land restrictions in that general area and the effect they have on the "free market". In parts of the Adirondacks you need over 47 acres to sub divide and build on both! Your buddy should petition the town to require some additional licence , even though current licenses have it covered, restricting competition in his trade and inflating prices. Another way some work around the free market. Seriously though if he was going to completely plum three large buildings for 5 grand he needs to up his prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    The Rodents WHINE about the high cost of housing.

    The Rodents DEMAND total bans on the construction of new housing.

    These are not unrelated matters.
    Right you are. But the slum lords play the same game, as do some cities that want to keep out poor people. Here in the rural area the "movers and shakers" restrict trailer parks.
    Seems like everyone wants housing cost up but nobody wants to foot the bill. Then many of those players walk away talking about how "free" our market supposedly is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Right you are. But the slum lords play the same game, as do some cities that want to keep out poor people. Here in the rural area the "movers and shakers" restrict trailer parks.
    Seems like everyone wants housing cost up but nobody wants to foot the bill. Then many of those players walk away talking about how "free" our market supposedly is!
    The slum lord can only control his property, some of which may be Democrat city councilmen.

    If the city council isn't bought (means it can't be Democrats) and isn't stupid (rules out most GOP), then private investors can, if they're crazy, build rental real estate and ease the demand for housing. Crazy because most states severely punish the owner who dares to rent his property.

    Another problem contributing to the high cost of housing, is, naturally, the Invaders, aka the "illegal aliens". At least 10% of the people living in CA (and the rest of the US, too) are criminals, illegal aliens, and if they were deported, as every single one of them should be, the demand for housing would go down and thus the cost of housing would follow.

    And smart people would make a bundle with house cleaning services to pick up after those disgusting pigs.
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    The slum lord can only control his property, some of which may be Democrat city councilmen.

    If the city council isn't bought (means it can't be Democrats) and isn't stupid (rules out most GOP), then private investors can, if they're crazy, build rental real estate and ease the demand for housing. Crazy because most states severely punish the owner who dares to rent his property.

    Another problem contributing to the high cost of housing, is, naturally, the Invaders, aka the "illegal aliens". At least 10% of the people living in CA (and the rest of the US, too) are criminals, illegal aliens, and if they were deported, as every single one of them should be, the demand for housing would go down and thus the cost of housing would follow.

    And smart people would make a bundle with house cleaning services to pick up after those disgusting pigs.
    "Punish"? Humm. Here , at least not too long ago, Hud helped you remodel if you rented to low income. There were time commitments of course but the overall the resulting asset belonged to the landlord.
    Anyway assure you that democrats/repubs can be and are bought and repubs/dems can be dumb .
    The main point is that forces outside a true free market drive the cost of housing out of line and cause people to become things like homeless or government dependent

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