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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Oh, now increased domestic spying is "nothing"?

    Amazing how a change in administration, changes a hack's concern or care....
    Well the OP opines how Russia paid Trump for the US to more easily launch a cyber attack on Russia. Did you read your own link? Apparently not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    Nothing, yes because the OP does not say that there is an increase in any spying domestic or not.
    The sky is falling people say it COULD lead to, but they do not have any idea what the new rules are.

    I am 100% against the domestic spying on American citizens that has been going on, contact my congressman he can read you a few of the hundreds of emails he receives from me on this.... BUT Presidential Policy Directive 20,” has been public for 5 years do you really think we have continued with it this whole time? It was a confidential directive, it would have been updated, replaced after it was made public by Snowden.
    Doing away with it does not mean there will be an increase in domestic spying, to say so is just silly.
    Yeah.....they do like to play on that wording. It could. Kind of like If a frog had wings it could stop from hitting its ass when it hops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Well the OP opines how Russia paid Trump for the US to more easily launch a cyber attack on Russia. Did you read your own link? Apparently not.
    It's not my link, einstein.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    Nothing, yes because the OP does not say that there is an increase in any spying domestic or not.
    The sky is falling people say it COULD lead to, but they do not have any idea what the new rules are.

    I am 100% against the domestic spying on American citizens that has been going on, contact my congressman he can read you a few of the hundreds of emails he receives from me on this.... BUT Presidential Policy Directive 20,” has been public for 5 years do you really think we have continued with it this whole time? It was a confidential directive, it would have been updated, replaced after it was made public by Snowden.
    Doing away with it does not mean there will be an increase in domestic spying, to say so is just silly.
    Cool story, bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    What are you discussing, hanger? What part of this OP are you still trying to uncover?

    The OP states that Trump rolled back Obama's cybersecurity policy, which could make it easier to spy on US citizens.
    This is incorrect. What we do know is PD20 has been replaced. PD20 was compromised. The new Presidential Directive has not been compromised. Cybersecurity policy is not about spying on Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    I wonder how much the Russians paid him to do this right before the midterms?
    I see you got some exercise, jumping to conclusions.

    Good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Well the OP opines how Russia paid Trump for the US to more easily launch a cyber attack on Russia. Did you read your own link? Apparently not.
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is incorrect. What we do know is PD20 has been replaced. PD20 was compromised. The new Presidential Directive has not been compromised. Cybersecurity policy is not about spying on Americans.
    You err.

    A copy of the Obama directive, leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and obtained by The Guardian in 2013, also explicitly prevented the government from engaging in domestic cyber operations except in cases of emergency.

    It’s unclear what new rules, if any, the Trump administration has implemented instead, but a former senior U.S. official expressed concern to the Journal the new rules might now permit domestic activities.
    Show the same outrage you did when you found out the government was spying on domestic citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    I wonder how much the Russians paid him to do this right before the midterms?

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0df9b093d1b06

    Trump Reverses Obama-Era Rules On Cyberattacks

    The move could signal an increase in U.S. cyberattacks — potentially even on domestic targets.

    istration on Wednesday rolled back a series of Obama-era rules meant to regulate and coordinate how the United States engages in cyberattacks, portraying the rules as unnecessarily restrictive.

    The confidential Obama rules, referred to as “Presidential Policy Directive 20,” set in place processes for approval before any one government agency could launch a cyberattack.

    “If you don’t have good coordination mechanisms, you could end up having an operation wreck a carefully crafted multiyear espionage operation to gain access to a foreign computer system,” Michael Daniel, Obama’s White House cybersecurity coordinator, explained to the Wall Street Journal.

    A copy of the Obama directive, leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and obtained by The Guardian in 2013, also explicitly prevented the government from engaging in domestic cyber operations except in cases of emergency.

    It’s unclear what new rules, if any, the Trump administration has implemented instead, but a former senior U.S. official expressed concern to the Journal the new rules might now permit domestic activities.

    Trump officials contend Directive 20 was more of an impediment than a useful framework for interagency communication, a stance that could signal an increase in the U.S. engaging in such attacks moving forward.

    Trump’s national security adviser John Bolton was reportedly a driving force behind the decision.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Like I said, hack.
    Says the #1 hack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    What are you discussing, hanger? What part of this OP are you still trying to uncover?

    The OP states that Trump rolled back Obama's cybersecurity policy, which could make it easier to spy on US citizens. I highlighted the fact that so many of the hard right was $#@!ing the last eight years about domestic spying, yet the same hard right applauds this because....Trump.

    Now, what are you trying to discuss, please make it clear so that I don't make the same mistake that you did and assume you know what you are talking about.
    Trump rolled back rules that would organize attacks on other countries. Read the post.
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