The Opposite of Communism.

[Chris]

Hopefully we will reach an economic stage where all people can be provided with necessities.

The socialist dream. A post-scarcity society. Some people think automation will get us there. It won't.

[donttread]

And without the coercive force of the government, how would they do that?

Collectives . Let me ask you this. Do you think that in the absence of any government no group would form and coerce others? That no power would be exercised over others? How would you deal with crime? How would capitalism assure people's rights? What would stop Monsanto and Exxon from becoming defacto governments?

[MisterVeritis]

Hopefully we will reach an economic stage where all people can be provided with necessities.

We are there. All you need do is get off your ass and go get yours.

[Captdon]

There would be all sort of groups. One would be to not use a particular brand without a deal. Non-governmental groups wouldn't be restricted by capitalism but empowered by the whole competition idea. Without the government setting up rules we people can't fight, the corporations would be competing with each other more than they have to now.

They wouldn't have the government setting rules to prevent people from negotiating everything they want. Economic groups would replace political groups for the economy. If my area didn't like what a company was doing we could stop them by refusing then access. Remember: no government means the people make the rules.

[Chris]

Collectives . Let me ask you this. Do you think that in the absence of any government no group would form and coerce others? That no power would be exercised over others? How would you deal with crime? How would capitalism assure people's rights? What would stop Monsanto and Exxon from becoming defacto governments?

The question remains how?

What prevents it is cost. The price is too high for any Monsanto or Exxon. With a government you get concentrated benefit at diffuse costs (taxes). Without, you don't. To get what you want you have to produce what others want.

[Chris]

There would be all sort of groups. One would be to not use a particular brand without a deal. Non-governmental groups wouldn't be restricted by capitalism but empowered by the whole competition idea. Without the government setting up rules we people can't fight, the corporations would be competing with each other more than they have to now.

They wouldn't have the government setting rules to prevent people from negotiating everything they want. Economic groups would replace political groups for the economy. If my area didn't like what a company was doing we could stop them by refusing then access. Remember: no government means the people make the rules.

True, there will always be governance, either the people or a separate entity called the government. Rules without rulers.

[donttread]

The question remains how?

What prevents it is cost. The price is too high for any Monsanto or Exxon. With a government you get concentrated benefit at diffuse costs (taxes). Without, you don't. To get what you want you have to produce what others want.

Or tell people what they want, crowd out smaller competition and sell it to them. Anyway are there any real world examples of the tame anarchy you describe? Serious question, if so I would like to look at them.

[Chris]

Or tell people what they want, crowd out smaller competition and sell it to them. Anyway are there any real world examples of the tame anarchy you describe? Serious question, if so I would like to look at them.

We're talking here and now, do you have any real world examples of "Or tell people what they want, crowd out smaller competition and sell it to them. "

[roadmaster]

The opposite of communism has and will always be Christianity.

[Orion Rules]

What exactly is wrong with it, if more wealth for the people who work inside these corporations is realized? What is wrong with holding these companies feet to the fire to make sure accountability is realized? What is wrong with huge corporations that live and work inside of the United States, that they be nationalized? Capitalism and socialism, but what is between, the politicians could never agree, so let us make sure everything is honestly, and for the very best, is self-governed.