Seattle's $15 Minimum Wage is Hurting the Workers It's Intending to Help

[Chris]

It's like socialism, it's known not to work, but liberals keep crying for it anyway.



(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0aUYHblw90)

[MisterVeritis]

It serves the socialists right.

[Agent Zero]

It's like socialism, it's known not to work, but liberals keep crying for it anyway.



(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0aUYHblw90)

It's a shame you weren't honest enough to post the Post article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ae8105a39cbd

And critics of the research pointed out what they saw as serious shortcomings. In particular, to avoid confusing establishments that were subject to the minimum with those that were not, the authors did not include large employers with locations both inside and outside of Seattle in their calculations. Skeptics argued that omission could explain the unusual results.
"Like, whoa, what? Where did you get this?" asked Ben Zipperer, an economist at the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute (EPI) in Washington.

There could be another explanation for the results, however: the fact that large employers are not included. It could be that even if employers with only a single location cut payrolls, large firms expanded at the same time, giving low-wage workers other opportunities to earn money.

[Chris]

It's a shame you weren't honest enough to post the Post article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ae8105a39cbd

I'm sure there's other opinions. Can you summarize the Post's?

"Could" raises questions, not counter arguments.

[Chris]

Reason I ask Zero to do that is because I don't have free access to WaPo.

But I have found the same economist at the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute quoted in ‘Very credible’ new study on Seattle’s $15 minimum wage has bad news for liberals

Critics of the research pointed out what they saw as serious shortcomings. To avoid confusing establishments that were subject to the minimum with those that were not, the authors did not include large employers with locations both inside and outside of Seattle in their calculations. “Like, whoa, what? Where did you get this?” asked Ben Zipperer, an economist at the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute (EPI) in Washington.

“My view is that it seems to work,” he said. “The minimum wage seems to do exactly what it’s intended to do, and that’s to raise wages for low-wage workers, with little negative consequence in terms of job loss.”

First off, “Like, whoa, what? Where did you get this?” is not an argument.

Second, as per usual, the liberal has reframed and changed the topic to job loss. The study didn't find job loss but hours lost. Per the video, when min wage was raised to $13/hr, hours were reduced by 9%, or:



Generally speaking, economists do not predict people will lose jobs, unless the business is forced to close down. Economists predict reductions in hours worked and reductions in new job opportunities.