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    What to do with federal agencies?

    Currently there are too many, with too much authority , too little ethics and or oversight, too many budget dollars and too many people in power connected to the industry they regulate.

    What could we do?
    1) A Flat or Fair tax would downsize the IRS dramatically
    2) Only police agencies need weapons issued.
    3) Stop the incest at the FDA and severely limit the time anyone serving for the agency has worked in that industry . A lifetime ban on lobbyist becoming for example FDA committee members and insistence that a high percentage of board members have no ties to the industry they regulate and never had
    4) Mergers , for example INS, Border Patrol and ICE
    5) Disband the ATF. All three of the things they regulate are non-prescription legal , they have a $#@!ty track record and the FBI could take over the few things they do that really matter and possibly DHS too.
    6) Look to merge other agencies wherever possible
    Ban lobbying to federal agencies
    7) Make it legal to lie to a federal agent as lying should not be a crime unless under oath
    8) De militarize them unless they are in fact the military
    9) Undo there ability to make de-facto laws without congress.
    10) And oh yeah, make them stay on budget.
    11) Do something about the NSA and stop warrantless spying on Americans

    Other suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Currently there are too many, with too much authority , too little ethics and or oversight, too many budget dollars and too many people in power connected to the industry they regulate.

    What could we do?
    1) A Flat or Fair tax would downsize the IRS dramatically

    […]

    Other suggestions?
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    This was the problem with taking the states out of the equation. The framers wanted the state legislatures to appoint senators to deal with issues such as these. The line between national or state jurisdictions may have been dealt within Congress itself. Instead of passing the seventeenth amendment, maybe we should have considered a better wording of Article 1 Section 3.
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    The start should be ridding the federal government of certain agencies. Not cutting them but closing them down. Why do we have a Dept. of Education? Why do we have HHS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    This was the problem with taking the states out of the equation. The framers wanted the state legislatures to appoint senators to deal with issues such as these. The line between national or state jurisdictions may have been dealt within Congress itself. Instead of passing the seventeenth amendment, maybe we should have considered a better wording of Article 1 Section 3.
    This is a very intelligent perspective. It's very eerie too.

    And that's because it made me wonder about if America would have never gained that, universal respect, which makes us Leader of The World over the past 90 decades? I then thought about, the problem with taking the states out of the equation; Would it be a problem, if the Homeland had instead been 50 little nations inside one Republic here, at wartime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffishragabash View Post
    This is a very intelligent perspective. It's very eerie too.

    And that's because it made me wonder about if America would have never gained that, universal respect, which makes us Leader of The World over the past 90 decades? I then thought about, the problem with taking the states out of the equation; Would it be a problem, if the Homeland had instead been 50 little nations inside one Republic here, at wartime?

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    I didn't know the United States was 900 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    This was the problem with taking the states out of the equation. The framers wanted the state legislatures to appoint senators to deal with issues such as these. The line between national or state jurisdictions may have been dealt within Congress itself. Instead of passing the seventeenth amendment, maybe we should have considered a better wording of Article 1 Section 3.

    If we simply limited the federal government to it's Constitutional limits states rights would be reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffishragabash View Post
    This is a very intelligent perspective. It's very eerie too.

    And that's because it made me wonder about if America would have never gained that, universal respect, which makes us Leader of The World over the past 90 decades? I then thought about, the problem with taking the states out of the equation; Would it be a problem, if the Homeland had instead been 50 little nations inside one Republic here, at wartime?

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    It would never have been 50 little republics in war time. War is the federal responsibility. Read the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    It would never have been 50 little republics in war time. War is the federal responsibility. Read the Constitution.

    Basically the feds existed to deal with other nations and moderate disbutes between the states. In other words the few things that the states couldn't effectively do for themselves. Every time the feds have usurped state power it has come with a massive loss of efficiency

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