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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It's only good for mixed drinks.
    Yeah Jack and Coke isn't bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Yeah Jack and Coke isn't bad.
    Jack Daniels isn’t a whiskey that one would drink straight. I would agree that mixed with coke, it’s ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I finished reading Six Frigates about a month or two ago. The book is a history of the founding of the US Navy during the presidencies of Adams, Jefferson, and Madison. A consistent theme at the time was promoting and protecting American maritime trade. Another theme was the willingness of American merchants and political leadership to trade with basically anyone who was willing to do business. Simply put, they tried to remain impartial and detached and were primarily interested in making America rich and prosperous. This required us to stay out of European wars, particularly between the British and the French. This did not always work out perfectly, but they always made a sincere effort to stay true to that principle. And when it worked out, America benefited greatly. Whenever war broke out between the British and the French, American merchants would sell to both sides and make tons of money doing it. And US revenues from tariffs, duties, and excises would swell. This is a great example of realism in foreign policy. Americans did not concern themselves with who was right or wrong in foreign wars. They did not try to insert themselves into the dispute. They just did what was in their own interests and left the foreign powers to their own devices. This approach was based on years of intense experience and study by the founders, who were excellent students of history. The same principles should be guiding US foreign policy today. We should not be taking sides in foreign wars unless forced to do so. And if we're forced to intervene, we should do it in a way that seeks to reestablish our neutrality and nothing more. Wars based on a desire to spread democracy, promote human rights, or exact vengeance are chimerical and emotional. The only thing that should matter are real, tangible results that we can measure and see. That is what our founders believed and that is what I believe.
    I agree with your sentiments on the matter however what the citizens of the US have become trapped in is US commercial interference in foreign nations that affect said nations own policies and disagreements with other countries: see the history of Standard Oil of New York and the Middle East for instance. Add to that the effects of the cold war territorial interventions on the part of one side or another which led directly to US interference in Central and South America and you've got a mess that we are still dealing with, never mind the Israeli conflict. Should the US go back to our original intent with respect to trade and foreign policy as you suggest? absolutely, but how can we afford it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Jack Daniels isn’t a whiskey that one would drink straight. I would agree that mixed with coke, it’s ok.
    Shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachroidott View Post
    Shots.
    Jack Daniels is crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Jack Daniels is crap.
    Crap is for shooting, if you're feeling that self-abusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Jack Daniels isn’t a whiskey that one would drink straight. I would agree that mixed with coke, it’s ok.
    I drink it straight. It explains so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Kentucky.
    Tennessee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Tennessee.

    No, Kentucky. Calumet Kentucky bourbon is made in Lexington, Kentucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    No, Kentucky. Calumet Kentucky bourbon is made in Lexington, Kentucky.
    I was caught up in the Jack Daniels things. My apologies.

    My brother-in-law introduced me to the hard stuff with Kesslers. Now , that was rotten stuff.
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