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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    It is my understanding that if you say anything beyond your name, address and social security number you effectively have given up your right to an attorney, so if you say My name is Blaswell V Peanoodle and I live at 79 Wistful Vista and my ss number is 123-3457-328 you are ok, but if you add and I work for J Arthur Prufrock and Associates then you are in trouble and have given up your rights.
    No, unless you specify that you are giving up your rights you can invoke them anytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    Hilarious ... just think, if Trumpf hadn't fired FBI Director Comey he would be free to conduct his ongoing criminal organisation (RICO) with impunity ... and Trumphytes would continue to squeal with delight ... *snicker*
    This makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Coming next; TRASHING of the FBI and intel agencies, trying desparately to support Trump and his syndicate!
    Nah, before that. Well before it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    They would have no options other than to end the interview. Know your rights. 5th Amendment trumps them. End of story. Our founders were towering intellects to forsee the abuses of government and how to protect the citizens.
    The Bill of Rights.. is an amazing document.
    Mmm...Patriot Act? Guess it depends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    What I want to know this morning is why in hell is it a punishable crime to lie to the FBI? The FBI can lie to us without punishment. They do it all the time to set up and entrap suspected criminals. Politicians lie to we the people every minute of every day and get rewarded with reelection. I want to know who the hell made the stupid law making it a crime to lie to the FBI so I can put that idiot or idiots on my "never vote for $#@!" list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    What I want to know this morning is why in hell is it a punishable crime to lie to the FBI? The FBI can lie to us without punishment. They do it all the time to set up and entrap suspected criminals. Politicians lie to we the people every minute of every day and get rewarded with reelection. I want to know who the hell made the stupid law making it a crime to lie to the FBI so I can put that idiot or idiots on my "never vote for $#@!" list.
    The crime is that of obstruction of justice. If [a] person willfully and knowingly tried to protect a suspect (such as by providing a false alibi) or to hide from investigation of their own activities (such as to hide their involvement in another crime), this may leave them liable to prosecution. Obstruction charges can also be laid if a person alters, destroys, or conceals physical evidence. Obstruction charges may also be laid in unique situations such as refusal to aid a police officer, escape through voluntary action of an officer and refusing to assist prison officers in arresting escaped convicts. Each individual of course, retains the right to remain silent and further plead the 5th in Court.

    IOW, if you lie and lead law enforcement on a wild goose chase, causing them to waste time and public funds, you are obstructing the course of justice. It is bad public policy to allow people to willingly and self-servingly pervert the course of justice without penalty. You don't create bodies of law enforcement to then turn around and allow everyone to lie without penalty. You would then render law enforcement impotent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beevee View Post
    On the assumption you were to not open your mouth at all, for the entire interview, what would be their option, since most of the evidence they obtain is likely to be from the mouth of the interviewee?
    Immunize me.
    Get me a lawyer.
    Go elsewhere.
    It is my right not to speak.
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    [QUOTE=zachroidott;2420743]Mmm...Patriot Act? Guess it depends.[/QUOTE

    Nothing in the Patriot Act trumps your 5th Amendment rights
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    What I want to know this morning is why in hell is it a punishable crime to lie to the FBI? The FBI can lie to us without punishment. They do it all the time to set up and entrap suspected criminals. Politicians lie to we the people every minute of every day and get rewarded with reelection. I want to know who the hell made the stupid law making it a crime to lie to the FBI so I can put that idiot or idiots on my "never vote for $#@!" list.
    Robo you should turn this thread tittle into a weekly post. I'll bet we'd all be shocked about some of the ridiculous and Constitution busting laws that exist.

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