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    Read A Pile Of Top Nazis Talking About How They Love Leftist Marxism

    Long article so I'll only highlight parts.

    Read A Pile Of Top Nazis Talking About How They Love Leftist Marxism

    The Nazis were leftists....

    ...“The Road to Serfdom,” by F. A. Hayek, is one such tract. Published in 1944, it remains a classic for young people on the political right discovering their intellectual roots. A sort of academic “1984,” it warns of socialism’s tendency toward planned states and totalitarianism.

    One aspect of the book can shock the conscience. Hayek describes Nazism as a “genuine socialist movement” and thus left-wing by modern American standards. Indeed, the Austrian-born Hayek wrote the book from his essay, “Nazi-Socialism,” which countered prevailing opinion at the London School of Economics, where he taught. British elites regarded Nazism as a virulent capitalist reaction against enlightened socialism—a view that persists today.

    ...The right consists of free-market capitalists, who think the individual is the primary political unit, believes in property rights, and are generally distrustful of government by unaccountable agencies and government solutions to social problems. They view family and civil institutions, such as church, as needed checks on state power.

    ...The left believes the opposite. They distrust the excesses and inequality capitalism produces. They give primacy to group rights and identity. They believe factors like race, ethnicity, and sex compose the primary political unit. They don’t believe in strong property rights.

    ...By these definitions, the Nazis were firmly on the left. National Socialism was a collectivist authoritarian movement run by “social justice warriors.” This brand of “justice” benefited only some based on immutable characteristics, which perfectly aligns with the modern brand. The Nazi ideal embraced identity politics based on the primacy of the people, or volk, and invoked state-based solutions for every possible problem. It was nation-based socialism—the nation being especially important to those who bled in the Great War.

    As Hayek stated in 1933, the year the Nazis took power: “[I]t is more than probable that the real meaning of the German revolution is that the long dreaded expansion of communism into the heart of Europe has taken place but is not recognized because the fundamental similarity of methods and ideas is hidden by the difference in phraseology and the privileged groups.”

    Nazism and socialism competed with the Enlightenment-based individualism of John Locke, Adam Smith, Montesquieu, and others who profoundly influenced the American founding and define the modern American right at its best. These thinkers fit easily with Hayek’s Austrian School of Economics, which opposed both the imperialist German Historical School and the Marxists.

    ...The Nazi charter published a year later and coauthored by Hitler is socialist in almost every aspect. It calls for “equality of rights for the German people”; the subjugation of the individual to the state; breaking of “rent slavery”; “confiscation of war profits”; the nationalization of industry; profit-sharing in heavy industry; large-scale social security; the “communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low costs to small firms”; the “free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility”; the abolition of “materialistic” Roman Law; nationalizing education; nationalizing the army; state regulation of the press; and strong central power in the Reich. It was also racist and anti-immigrant.

    ...It wasn’t only theoretical. Hitler repeatedly praised Marx privately, stating he had “learned a great deal from Marxism.” The trouble with the Weimar Republic, he said, was that its politicians “had never even read Marx.” He also stated his differences with communists were that they were intellectual types passing out pamphlets, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.”

    ...
    You'll have to read it.
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    Its just more of that "Liberal fascism" BS where they rewrite history!

    Ayne Randism run amok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Hebrews 13:8.
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    Its just more of that "Liberal fascism" BS where they rewrite history!

    Ayne Randism run amok!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Do you two have anything to contribute or are you posting just to prove it?
    Are you just posting your 483rd "the Nazis were leftists" thread because you think someone hasn't heard it all before, or because you actually have a point in doing so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Do you two have anything to contribute or are you posting just to prove it?
    Apparently, Wolf is in Polly defense mode.
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    Most conservatives split on whether they should openly embrace Nazis, or whether they should quietly embrace Nazis while pretending how it's liberals who are the real Nazis. Chris has chosen the latter route. Sadly, few conservatives hold the "we should renounce and expel all Nazis" position that all decent and moral people hold.

    Nazi and white supremacist groups in the USA give their loyalty to Trump. Here and now, Nazism is a conservative movement. To deny that is an exercise is running interference for Nazis, and it's what Chris is doing. He might try to deflect now by trying to confuse everyone as to what a Nazi is, but we know. Nazis are the ones with the swastikas rallying for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    Most conservatives split on whether they should openly embrace Nazis, or whether they should quietly embrace Nazis while pretending how it's liberals who are the real Nazis. Chris has chosen the latter route. Sadly, few conservatives hold the "we should renounce and expel all Nazis" position that all decent and moral people hold.

    Nazi and white supremacist groups in the USA give their loyalty to Trump. Here and now, Nazism is a conservative movement. To deny that is an exercise is running interference for Nazis, and it's what Chris is doing. He might try to deflect now by trying to confuse everyone as to what a Nazi is, but we know. Nazis are the ones with the swastikas rallying for Trump.
    Can you document your opinions the way the OP does? Or are you just going to mirror troll this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Are you just posting your 483rd "the Nazis were leftists" thread because you think someone hasn't heard it all before, or because you actually have a point in doing so?
    I'm posting it because people like you are in denial and because the OP is true.
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    Chris, do you really believe this nonsense? Black is white, white is black and never the twain shall meet. What BS, do any of these revisionist nut-cases ever read history? The right wing does not have the courage or the honesty to face their extremes: nationalism Fascism etc. When your mind is warped all you need to do is take a few words and assign some meaning that is absent sense and history and you can easily convince yourself up is down, down is up.

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