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    Illegal immigrants cited in theft of 39 million Social Security numbers

    Illegal immigrants cited in theft of 39 million Social Security numbers

    There has to be a way to control this.

    Nearly 40 million Social Security numbers have been stolen and used by illegal immigrants and others to get work, according to agency records obtained by an immigration reform group.

    The Immigration Reform Law Institute said that from 2012 to 2016 there were “39 million instances where names and Social Security numbers on W-2 tax forms did not match the corresponding Social Security records.”


    The group said that there is a “thriving black market” used by illegal immigrants to get Social Security numbers needed to get a job.



    Their report draws attention to a move by former President Barack Obama to stop sending so-called “no match” letters to employers notifying them that numbers used by employees on the wage forms do not match their identity.


    The change followed the president’s decision to approve amnesty for some 700,000 younger immigrants let into the U.S. under his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. Some of those have been dubbed “dreamers.”


    Several groups promoting immigration reform and limitations have shown that illegal immigrants compete with low-income Americans for jobs.

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    Ironically these stolen social security numbers and the money contributed by illegals has helped keep the program solvent. Illegals with stolen SS numbers have contributed billions to the program that they can't obviously collect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Ironically these stolen social security numbers and the money contributed by illegals has helped keep the program solvent. Illegals with stolen SS numbers have contributed billions to the program that they can't obviously collect.
    They're not chemists and lawyers, Sense.

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    They also claim billions in tax credits they are not entitled to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Ironically these stolen social security numbers and the money contributed by illegals has helped keep the program solvent. Illegals with stolen SS numbers have contributed billions to the program that they can't obviously collect.
    And they destroy your credit rating if yours is stolen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    And they destroy your credit rating if yours is stolen.
    39 million illegals didn't conspire to steal SS numbers. A bunch of criminals did and then sold them to illegals who wanted to work. Not that identity theft is ever justified, but if the criminals, who are probably well-educated citizens didn't steal people's identities, they couldn't be sold to desperate illegals. Those same criminals also steal credit card numbers and any other form of identification that they can sell. If hacking and identity theft carried the same kind of criminal penalties as armed robbery, you would see a significant decline in this kind of crime, but as it is, it is viewed as "white collar" crime with comparable limp-wristed penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    39 million illegals didn't conspire to steal SS numbers. A bunch of criminals did and then sold them to illegals who wanted to work. Not that identity theft is ever justified, but if the criminals, who are probably well-educated citizens didn't steal people's identities, they couldn't be sold to desperate illegals. Those same criminals also steal credit card numbers and any other form of identification that they can sell. If hacking and identity theft carried the same kind of criminal penalties as armed robbery, you would see a significant decline in this kind of crime, but as it is, it is viewed as "white collar" crime with comparable limp-wristed penalties.
    Yes, the illegals who use your SSN are criminals. Don't pat them on the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes, the illegals who use your SSN are criminals. Don't pat them on the head.
    I know receiving stolen goods is illegal and that is essentially what this is, but the place to start is by making the punishment for the original identity theft worth serious hard time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes, the illegals who use your SSN are criminals. Don't pat them on the head.

    It's amazing, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I know receiving stolen goods is illegal and that is essentially what this is, but the place to start is by making the punishment for the original identity theft worth serious hard time.
    It also Fraud, could be wire fraud. All theft crimes have two ends jail the people who steal and jail the people who receive. If there were substantial penalties for both, it would stop. They are all criminals
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