Well. @Beevee, what do you have to say about the violence on the left?
Well. @Beevee, what do you have to say about the violence on the left?
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Captdon (09-14-2018)
Originally Posted by southwest88 Left, Right, center. I don't care about the political affiliation, sexual preference, ethnicity, race, religion, age - none of that. If someone is violent, or incites to violence - detain them & charge them, if the evidence holds up.
If they're found guilty, punish them according to the suggested guidelines for the crime.
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I think all political leaders should discourage violence, with a vengeance. We can't have a political process if we're busy dodging bullets; see Sarajevo, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Hutu/Tutsi, the entire miserable litany of low-level conflict that went to conventional war & then nuclear.
Chris (09-14-2018)
Chris (09-14-2018)
An interesting commentary relevant to the OP: The Civil War on America’s Horizon
...While the elites have deliberately cut themselves off from their civilizational inheritance because they view it as unworthy, Trump supporters do not feel estranged from national and religious symbols and traditions. Most never attended an elite university, have never read Derrida, and have no desire to deconstruct the customs they love. The elites and Trumpites live in different moral universes, and their unrelenting political warfare derives from both groups’ understanding that power flows to those whose narratives retain legitimacy and validity. These battles are so worrisome because they are existential, not simply political.
This will not end well, I fear. Goodwill and moderation exist on neither side. It may be that a civil war looms on the horizon. All that’s required now is a spark because every cultural accelerant is now in place. That spark could come from the Mueller investigation, which is viewed by Trump and his supporters as a brazen attempt at a coup d’état by a thoroughly corrupt intelligence community and legal establishment. Impeachment over payments to paramours, for example, will be viewed as a phony pretext for the lawless removal of a duly elected president.
Given the intemperance of Trump and the viciousness of his opponents, compromise seems unlikely. Most of the American media will blame any conflagration on Trump, and certainly he will deserve some of the fault. But American elites are the revolutionary children of the ’60s and ’70s, proud despoilers of their country’s history and tradition. Now comes the counter-revolution, led by a gargoyle promising to defend the old cathedral. When postmodern radicals lecture him about the need to temper his attacks, a Trump supporter might retort the same way that a rebellious royalist did to the new Jacobin government in 1793: “You accuse us of overturning our patrie by rebellion, but it is you, who, subverting all principles of the religious and political order, were the first to proclaim that insurrection is the most sacred of duties.”
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
MMC (09-15-2018)
Yep, more and more are starting to see it.
America's Second Civil War - The Dennis Prager Show
www.dennisprager.com/americas-second-civil-war
For that reason, just as the Great War came to be known as World War I once there was World War II, the Civil War will become known as the First Civil War when more Americans come to regard the current battle as the Second Civil War.
History does not long Entrust the care of Freedom, to the Weak or Timid!!!!! Dwight D. Eisenhower ~