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    CNN Reports

    And this from CNN Lefties read it and weep. https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/opini...las/index.html


    Why single payer health care is a terrible option

     

    Almost inexplicably, even more top-down control -- single-payer health care, a system in which the government provides nationalized health insurance, sets all fees for medical care and pays those fees to doctors and hospitals -- has found new support from the left. And this despite its decades of documented failures in other countries to provide timely, quality medical care, and in the face of similar problems in our own single-payer Veterans Affairs system.

     

    Massive waiting lists and dangerous delays for medical appointments.

     

    Life-threatening delays for treatment, even for patients requiring urgent cancer treatment or critical brain surgery

     

    Delayed availability of life-saving drugs

     

    Worse availability of screening tests


    Significantly worse outcomes from serious diseases
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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    That's not a report. It's an opinion piece.

    Either way, I thought CNN was fake news?

    This constant comparison of single payer to the VA indicates the author is ignorant of what single payer actually is. The VA is completely government run. In single payer countries like Canada, the government doesn't run hospitals, clinics or doctors offices. It acts as the insurer and hospitals/clinics/doctors offices are privately owned and operated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    That's not a report. It's an opinion piece.

    Either way, I thought CNN was fake news?

    This constant comparison of single payer to the VA indicates the author is ignorant of what single payer actually is. The VA is completely government run. In single payer countries like Canada, the government doesn't run hospitals, clinics or doctors offices. It acts as the insurer and hospitals/clinics/doctors offices are privately owned and operated.
    Actually both are "SOCIALIZED MEDICINE." China is a SOCIALIZED country, it allows "GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED CAPITALISM. Like America it has NO truly free markets. The issue here is how far should America "SOCIALIZE?"
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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    Government is socialism by definition. The BIGGER the government the BIGGER the socialism.
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Government is socialism by definition. The BIGGER the government the BIGGER the socialism.
    So lets get gov.t small enough to "drown it in a bathtub" eh?
    I'm for a more efficient gov.t!

    Let's not even mention "Sochulism" because no one here ever gets it right what it is. Its just a "shock word" for the dumbass illiteratti!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    So lets get gov.t small enough to "drown it in a bathtub" eh?
    I'm for a more efficient gov.t!



    Let's not even mention "Sochulism" because no one here ever gets it right what it is. Its just a "shock word" for the dumbass illiteratti!

    More government = More efficient government? Really? I'll never agree with that.

    You do know that you can always instruct we "dumbasses" the true definitions of socialism, don't you? I like to learn things every day.
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Actually both are "SOCIALIZED MEDICINE." China is a SOCIALIZED country, it allows "GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED CAPITALISM. Like America it has NO truly free markets. The issue here is how far should America "SOCIALIZE?"
    There is a fundamental difference between single payer like the system in Canada and the VA. Drawing comparisons or implying they are similar is dishonest or ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    There is a fundamental difference between single payer like the system in Canada and the VA. Drawing comparisons or implying they are similar is dishonest or ignorant.
    Why don't you post the "differences" and actually make a case for your simplistic statement and allow us to post our "differences" with you? If you can.
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Why don't you post the "differences" and actually make a case for your simplistic statement and allow us to post our "differences" with you? If you can.
    Canadians don't have to take the risk that a policy might not cover a pre existing condition as a prerequisite before treatment.

    How about you?

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    Remember back during the last election..... "Keep your hands off my Medicare!". LOL!
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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