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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Why don't you post the "differences" and actually make a case for your simplistic statement and allow us to post our "differences" with you? If you can.
    I've already explained the difference. You must have missed it.

    With the VA, the government owns and operates the hospitals. In a single payer system like here in Canada, the hospitals, clinics and doctors offices are privately owned and operated. The government (the province) acts as the insurer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    There is a fundamental difference between single payer like the system in Canada and the VA. Drawing comparisons or implying they are similar is dishonest or ignorant.
    Nothing about canada can compare to the USA and you cannot assume anything canada does can possibly work here.

    Canadas population in 2018 is 37,019,712

    Just two states in the USA have more people than that, Florida and California.

    The US Population in 2018 327,231,032
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Nothing about canada can compare to the USA and you cannot assume anything canada does can possibly work here.

    Canadas population in 2018 is 37,019,712

    Just two states in the USA have more people than that, Florida and California.

    The US Population in 2018 327,231,032
    Why? The two societies are more similar than they are different.

    The provinces manage the insurance and a province like Ontario with over 10 million people is comparable to many states.

    The programs are scalable. I've heard this argument that it can't work in the US before. I haven't really heard any specific reasons other than population differences. How exactly are Canadian provinces able to do it but US states are unable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beevee View Post
    Canadians don't have to take the risk that a policy might not cover a pre existing condition as a prerequisite before treatment.

    How about you?
    How long do you have to wait before it's treated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Why? The two societies are more similar than they are different.

    The provinces manage the insurance and a province like Ontario with over 10 million people is comparable to many states.

    The programs are scalable. I've heard this argument that it can't work in the US before. I haven't really heard any specific reasons other than population differences. How exactly are Canadian provinces able to do it but US states are unable?
    How well are Canadian Provinces able to do it? You're not a utopia. You don't have the answers, but by all means, keep licking the glass.

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    It is. Always has been and will always be an insurance issue.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    I've already explained the difference. You must have missed it.

    With the VA, the government owns and operates the hospitals. In a single payer system like here in Canada, the hospitals, clinics and doctors offices are privately owned and operated. The government (the province) acts as the insurer.
    And with that control of just being the insurer, the government decides who gets care and how much the provider can charge. Any way you cut it the government has control. I submit that's what's wrong with the system.
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beevee View Post
    Canadians don't have to take the risk that a policy might not cover a pre existing condition as a prerequisite before treatment.

    How about you?
    What's the BIG difference between not having a preexisting condition covered or not being able to get care because the waiting list is months long?
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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    I think the facts actually show that there is no such animal as a perfect healthcare system. And America can't afford a single payer system because we're the self-designated "Military Protector Of The Globe." Our great WEALTHY NATION, with a 21trillion $ debt has to be the worlds police force and spend our GDP on military equipment and operations world wide so that the rest of our so-called allies can provide government health insurance for their folks.

    "The truth shall set ye free!"
    Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The Bigger the government the greater the force and the greater the corruption.

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