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    Climate Yo-Yos Yammer and Yell About Trump

    We've had these discussions on the forum before debunking the association of hurricanes lately with climate change. This article, Climate Yo-Yos Yammer and Yell About Trump, summarizes the wolf cries:

    Perhaps, in the Headline Hall of Fame, alongside “Headless body in topless bar,” we can add a new entry to display for generations to come. This week a Washington Post editorial declared: “Another hurricane is about to batter our coast. Trump is complicit.”

    The point was that hurricanes are caused or intensified by the man-made climate change that we’ve experienced in recent decades, and that Trump ignores that supposedly obvious fact, bringing about destruction. Never mind that, between Wilma in 2005 and Harvey in 2017, no major hurricane (Category 3 or higher) made landfall in the continental United States. That’s the longest such hiatus ever recorded.

    Never mind that, according to the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration, 40 major hurricanes hit the United States in the 55-year period between 1906 and 1960. In the following 55 years, during the era of global warming, the number was 26. The number in the worst categories, Categories 4 and 5, fell from 12 to 5.

    ...This isn’t the first time that experts have sounded the alarm about climate change.

    In the 17th century, witches in Europe were burned for their role in the climate change that caused crop failures.

    An 1895 New York Times article titled, “Geologists Think the World May Be Frozen Up Again” envisioned an Earth encased in “perennial frost and snow.”

    In 1932, the Times warned: “NEXT GREAT DELUGE FORECAST BY SCIENCE/Melting Polar Ice Caps to Raise the Level of Seas and Flood the Continent.” The following year, leaders in Syria blamed Western influences for climate change, so they banned the yoyo. Really.

    Then it was back to global cooling. Betty Friedan, the future feminist icon, wrote a 1958 Harper’s article, “The Coming Ice Age,” subtitled, “How a rising of the ocean waters may flood most of our port cities within the foreseeable future—and why it will be followed by the growth of a vast glacier which may eventually cover much of Europe and North America.”

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    And I thought it was the warmer waters of the Atlantic, yet Florence was a Cat 4 till she crossed the even warmer waters of the Gulf Stream and she dropped to a Cat 2. And I'm the science denier.
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    It's the same as immigrants. We say illegal and the Dems don't. We all know they're here though.

    We all know the climate is changing. The man-made claim not being held up is the same trick.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    If you don't belong to the consensus you're a denier!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    If you don't belong to the consensus you're a denier!
    Hell, I can't even find my local chapter of the Illuminati much less the consensus.
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    Hell, I can't even find my local chapter of the Illuminati much less the consensus.
    Just ask @Common Sense about the climate consesnsus.
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    I'm sure the round earth consensus also bothers deniers. Deniers are difficult to differentiate from flat-earthers, scientologists, antivaxxers, homeopaths and other conspiracy woo cults.

    Mainstream climate science has been getting everything spot-on correct for the past 40 years. That's why it has such credibility. In stark contrast, the deniers have been getting everything wrong for those same past 40 years. When the climate scientists were predicting warming even back in the 1970s, the deniers were predicting a new ice age, and most of them are still predicting that new ice age, or at least imminent cooling.

    The denier ice-age cult can't even get the direction of the change right. That's the biggest reason why they have zero credibility. The second biggest is that they engage in fraud more readily than normal humans breathe. If a denier says it, it's probably correct to assume the exact opposite is true, unless independent evidence shows otherwise.

    If deniers want credibility, they need to stop failing at everything, and instead start making predictions that turn out correct. You know, like the real scientists. Whining about how unfair it is that constant failure doesn't earn credibility is not a way to gain credibility, but it's one of the few tactics deniers have, besides the constant fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    I'm sure the round earth consensus also bothers deniers. Deniers are difficult to differentiate from flat-earthers, scientologists, antivaxxers, homeopaths and other conspiracy woo cults.

    Mainstream climate science has been getting everything spot-on correct for the past 40 years. That's why it has such credibility. In stark contrast, the deniers have been getting everything wrong for those same past 40 years. When the climate scientists were predicting warming even back in the 1970s, the deniers were predicting a new ice age, and most of them are still predicting that new ice age, or at least imminent cooling.

    The denier ice-age cult can't even get the direction of the change right. That's the biggest reason why they have zero credibility. The second biggest is that they engage in fraud more readily than normal humans breathe. If a denier says it, it's probably correct to assume the exact opposite is true, unless independent evidence shows otherwise.

    If deniers want credibility, they need to stop failing at everything, and instead start making predictions that turn out correct. You know, like the real scientists. Whining about how unfair it is that constant failure doesn't earn credibility is not a way to gain credibility, but it's one of the few tactics deniers have, besides the constant fraud.

    That the earth is "round" is demonstrated by measurement and observation and things like those pictures from the moon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    I'm sure the round earth consensus also bothers deniers. Deniers are difficult to differentiate from flat-earthers, scientologists, antivaxxers, homeopaths and other conspiracy woo cults.

    Mainstream climate science has been getting everything spot-on correct for the past 40 years. That's why it has such credibility. In stark contrast, the deniers have been getting everything wrong for those same past 40 years. When the climate scientists were predicting warming even back in the 1970s, the deniers were predicting a new ice age, and most of them are still predicting that new ice age, or at least imminent cooling.

    The denier ice-age cult can't even get the direction of the change right. That's the biggest reason why they have zero credibility. The second biggest is that they engage in fraud more readily than normal humans breathe. If a denier says it, it's probably correct to assume the exact opposite is true, unless independent evidence shows otherwise.

    If deniers want credibility, they need to stop failing at everything, and instead start making predictions that turn out correct. You know, like the real scientists. Whining about how unfair it is that constant failure doesn't earn credibility is not a way to gain credibility, but it's one of the few tactics deniers have, besides the constant fraud.
    Climate Science has been getting most of their predictions wrong- well overstated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    That the earth is "round" is demonstrated by measurement and observation and things like those pictures from the moon.
    And the fact that human-created greenhouse gases are warming the planet is also demonstrated by measurement and observation.


    That's why it's basically equivalent to deny either.

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