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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    There is some evidence that aliens from other worlds have visited earth. Have you seen one? If not, then you have a choice.
    It is the same with the God Factor...........you have a choice. But instead you mock those who do believe and that leads me to think your a tyrant telling people what they can believe in.....
    It's all about choices. No one forces you what to believe, but that doesn't give you the right to tell them they are stupid.
    I still don't care what he thinks. I don't need his permission to believe. I don't need him at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Austiran economics is not the free market. It is a school of economics as are Keynsian economics, Public Choice economics, Behavioral economics, Marxist economics and so on.


    Free markets are simply voluntary exchange whereby in any such exchange people exchange what they value less for what they value more. That can be two neighbors exchanging use of a tool for a home-cooked meal, all the way on up to a market system as described in something like Leonard E. Read's "I, Pencil."

    It is, therefore, win-win.

    Socialism/Marxism is predicated on win-lose.

    Venezueala is socialist. So was the USSR. Basically, in economics, that means the economy is centrally planned, it is fixed by regulation not free from regulation. And that is where it fails. It cannot solve two problems: One, the economic calculation problem, basically setting prices, which happens naturally in the free market. Two, the problem of knowledge in society because that knowledge is dynamic, diffuse and often tacit, but which happens naturally in the free market because pricing is a signal--in a fixed economy, where pricing is fixed by central planning, the signals are false, or in today's parlance, fake.


    Yes, I'm so devious.
    Whatever. I will not discuss this any more here. Mainly because it is not the topic. I am open to discuss the nonsense of the OP. You have blind faith in him, as if his word was godly and he has absolute reason.

    When you want to discuss about the topic, you may find me here. Otherwise, screw you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    Whatever. I will not discuss this any more here. Mainly because it is not the topic. I am open to discuss the nonsense of the OP. You have blind faith in him, as if his word was godly and he has absolute reason.

    When you want to discuss about the topic, you may find me here. Otherwise, screw you.

    Any time you want to start...discussing, not screwing, ewe.
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    Happened across a list of the 7 types of atheism from John Gray's Seven Types of Atheism in A Field Guide to Atheism—for Believer and Unbeliever Alike:

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    1. ‘New Atheism’

    A 19th-century orthodoxy—think Henri de Saint-Simon, August Comte, J. G. Frazer, and so on—the new atheism lives on in the work of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennett, and company, although it contains “little that is novel or interesting.”...

    2. Secular Humanism

    Following Nietzsche, Gray argues that modern progressivism is a “sacred relic” of Christianity, as people continue to believe in progress and development in history but change the source of this progress from God to humanity....

    3. Scientism

    This chapter makes uncomfortable reading, because it pulls together a variety of atheist expressions—scientific racism, mesmerism, communism, and transhumanism—which their proponents would claim to be quite different, but which share the same underlying commitment to human advancement through increased scientific knowledge....

    4. Political Religion

    “Partisans of revolution, reform and counterrevolution think they have left religion behind when all they have done is renew it in shapes they fail to recognise.”...

    5. Misotheism

    Every generation has its God haters, but the modern age has seen more than most....

    6. Atheism without Progress

    This is the least cohesive of the seven “types,” at least to me, and (as the chapter title suggests) it’s more defined by what it’s not—breezy, neo-Christian, world-making, progressive liberalism—than by what it is. The case studies of George Santayana and Joseph Conrad compose the entire chapter....

    7. Godless Mysticism

    It doesn’t seem like Arthur Schopenhauer, Benedict Spinoza, and Lev Shestov have much in common, but for Gray, they share what he calls “the atheism of silence.”....
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    And because we were recently discussing Genesis: Myth Congeniality:

    Gray shows us there is more truth to the story of Genesis than there is to the Enlightenment myth that life is best lived through the application of reason. The Genesis myth of original sin tells us that human nature is flawed, and that knowledge cannot save us from our nature. The barbaric evidence of the last century alone shows that to be true. Gray the atheist has sympathy with religions, for many of their myths speak truths to the human experience; what angers him is the secularists who refuse to acknowledge that their world view is informed by myths also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Happened across a list of the 7 types of atheism from John Gray's Seven Types of Atheism in A Field Guide to Atheism—for Believer and Unbeliever Alike:
    What many don't understand is that Nietzsche's "God is dead" is more an attack on the ideology of progress than an attack on Christianity.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    What many don't understand is that Nietzsche's "God is dead" is more an attack on the ideology of progress than an attack on Christianity.
    Agree. I believe he was chastising Christians for staying from the faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Agree. I believe he was chastising Christians for staying from the faith.
    I don't doubt that Nietzsche despised Christianity but he considered it's secularized version more degenerate.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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