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Thread: Is Trump the Dumbest President In US History?

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    The economy has been revived. More Americans are employed now than ever. The unemployment rate among minorities is the lowest it's ever been. North Korea is negotiating nuclear disarmament with the south and US. Trade agreements are being renegotiated.

    Where's the down side here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Not familiar with separation of powers eh? For instance, Congress makes law. If Congress gives away some of it's power to the Administration then you cannot complain that it is the Judges fault that Congress passes laws that must be followed because the Constitution gives them that power.
    What did I say that makes you think I'm unfamiliar with the separation of powers? More importantly, what does the separation of powers have to do with the tendency of nominally conservative justices to put their stamp of approval on brazenly unconstitutional acts? Do you actually believe the interstate commerce clause gives the US government the authority to prohibit drugs across the entire country? Because that authoritarian viewpoint is an article of faith among "conservative" justices. Or do you think the US government has the authority to spy on the entire country's electronic communications? Kavanaugh does. Is that the "conservative" idea of small government and liberty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What did I say that makes you think I'm unfamiliar with the separation of powers? More importantly, what does the separation of powers have to do with the tendency of nominally conservative justices to put their stamp of approval on brazenly unconstitutional acts? Do you actually believe the interstate commerce clause gives the US government the authority to prohibit drugs across the entire country? Because that authoritarian viewpoint is an article of faith among "conservative" justices. Or do you think the US government has the authority to spy on the entire country's electronic communications? Kavanaugh does. Is that the "conservative" idea of small government and liberty?
    You mean decisions that were made during a liberal court?
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    You mean decisions that were made during a liberal court?
    Bad decisions, unsupported by the Constitution, are made by judges every day...and if you think they're all, or even mostly liberal in their tendencies, you'd be wrong. On the other hand, I suspect that some of the decisions many of our self-identified conservative forum members believe are unsupported by the Constitution actually are solidly Constitutional; it's just that they seem to go stone deaf every time the decisions are explained to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    You mean decisions that were made during a liberal court?
    Justice Scalia said the interstate commerce clause gives the US government the authority to regulate homegrown marijuana that is used exclusively for personal medical use in a State that has specifically legalized it.

    In other words, Scalia, who is generally considered the exemplar of conservative jurisprudence, thinks the interstate commerce clause gives the US government the authority to regulate activity that is neither interstate nor commerce and which is legal according to State law. No doubt Kavanaugh believes the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Justice Scalia said the interstate commerce clause gives the US government the authority to regulate homegrown marijuana that is used exclusively for personal medical use in a State that has specifically legalized it.
    In other words, Scalia, who is generally considered the exemplar of conservative jurisprudence, thinks the interstate commerce clause gives the US government the authority to regulate activity that is neither interstate nor commerce and which is legal according to State law. No doubt Kavanaugh believes the same thing.
    Precedent decided by a liberal court. Wickard v Filburn.
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    Scalia also got Heller wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Scalia also got Heller wrong.
    Not according to the Federalist papers and the writing of the time but of course, it only went as far as the freedom the Constitution gave 'the people'. Not something the lib side likes very much.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Precedent decided by a liberal court. Wickard v Filburn.
    A demonstrably false precedent that is blatantly unconstitutional. Yet Scalia sanctioned it just the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Not according to the Federalist papers and the writing of the time but of course, it only went as far as the freedom the Constitution gave 'the people'. Not something the lib side likes very much.
    The people, however, is not an individualist concept. I just don't see how you get, as Scalia found, an individual right in a right of the people. It is weakened as an individual right for then liberals can pick off this and that set of individuals for exclusion.
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