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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Yes, I know what you'd prefer but that's irrelevant. The claim was the that hiring mercenaries was a bad thing. I asked why but I won't ask again. No one seems to know.
    Less control over their actions of course. I thought that was obvious.
    Besides soldiers for the most part are doing what they feel is patriotic duty. But hiring non soldiers who participate in war just for a pay check would likely increase the chances that they will do bad things not in the military script. . Aren't mercenaries looked down upon by armies for that very reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Less control over their actions of course. I thought that was obvious.
    Besides soldiers for the most part are doing what they feel is patriotic duty. But hiring non soldiers who participate in war just for a pay check would likely increase the chances that they will do bad things not in the military script. . Aren't mercenaries looked down upon by armies for that very reason?
    Doing something for patriotism or for money is beside the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Less control over their actions of course. I thought that was obvious.
    Besides soldiers for the most part are doing what they feel is patriotic duty. But hiring non soldiers who participate in war just for a pay check would likely increase the chances that they will do bad things not in the military script. . Aren't mercenaries looked down upon by armies for that very reason?
    Again, Blackwater was not engaged in combat operations. This doesn't seem to getting across.

    Mercenaries have been used for millennia, they don't appear to be any more prone to bad things than enlisted personnel and they are generally far more professional. That's sort of the whole concept.

    Oddly enough, this negative attitude toward mercenaries rose in tandem with the state you despise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Doing something for patriotism or for money is beside the point.
    Speaks to character of those representing our country .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Again, Blackwater was not engaged in combat operations. This doesn't seem to getting across.

    Mercenaries have been used for millennia, they don't appear to be any more prone to bad things than enlisted personnel and they are generally far more professional. That's sort of the whole concept.

    Oddly enough, this negative attitude toward mercenaries rose in tandem with the state you despise.
    What state do I despise ?? No combat. No official combat. Doesn't matter. They weren't there to sell cookies. There are a LOT of people in the Military. If that ain't enough people to fight AND support the war then we are waging way too much war!
    Just to be clear the "they don't appear to be any more prone" bit is opinion correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    What state do I despise ?? No combat. No official combat. Doesn't matter. They weren't there to sell cookies. There are a LOT of people in the Military. If that ain't enough people to fight AND support the war then we are waging way too much war!
    Just to be clear the "they don't appear to be any more prone" bit is opinion correct?
    The one you're always crying about. No combat operations and, yes, it does matter. They weren't hired as soldiers but security.

    That you think we're waging too much war is irrelevant. The topic is the ethics of mercenary employment. Would you rather they recruit "life's blood!"?

    Yes. US troops have committed many atrocities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The one you're always crying about. No combat operations and, yes, it does matter. They weren't hired as soldiers but security.

    That you think we're waging too much war is irrelevant. The topic is the ethics of mercenary employment. Would you rather they recruit "life's blood!"?

    Yes. US troops have committed many atrocities.

    1) What state am I always "crying about"? Please tell me you aren't one of those types who believe that holding the government accountable = hating the country? You should know, agree or not, that speaking out is far more Patriotic than excusing everything one's government does.
    2) Ask yourself why the hell the American military needs to hire security? That doesn't make sense .
    3) How can the amount of war we wage be irrelevant to ethics or the use of mercenaries? That also makes no sense. Ethics is not my whole argument anyway. When it comes to killing and dying in foreign wars the chain of command should be as tight as possible and an outside contractor does not accomplish that. Blackwater damaged our world image.
    4) Didn't these pure as the driven snow contractors murder civilians in 2007 and lose some of their contract? So I guess they don't fight after all, they just kill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    OK. You're favorite color is pink. Prove me wrong.
    You're wrong; it's blue: you failed to show any credible evidence of WHAT my favorite color is, therefore all you have is an empty assertion.

    [i]I prove what I say by producing evidence that backs up my claims. Thus far I have learned that you do not.

    So again, if you're going to say that myself or my proofs are wrong, then you have to research and present credible evidence that proves I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    It's 14 years old... You said and then pointed to an article that is 14 years old. That isn't "consistently" and as such your point is invalid.
    It's proof.

    Prove it wrong or stop talking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    State and local cops kill more citizens than Federal cops do... Cohesive enough for you?
    That's waaaay off topic and I'm not going to help you derail the thread. Start a thread on the subject and we can argue it there.

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