In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.
"The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Safety (09-22-2018),silvereyes (09-22-2018)
I see the hole differently: it's a place for exercising grievances with other posters. I have found it very useful, both here and elsewhere for dealing trolls and miscreants. In my opinion these people should actually be banned after several warnings , but for some reason mods allow them to exist: these trolls ruin the experience for other people, so giving them a comeuppance and treating them as they treat others is a good way of quieting them down I've found. Other good posters will offer negative opinions of the troll as well so the troll gets a good hint of how he or she is perceived: I just don't like jerks. To ignore them is easy, but really solves nothing in my view. It's a mod thing; I don't know why these people are allowed to pollute good places. And you are quite right: it is a "thinking" thing to them; if one does not echo their world view, one is simply treated as an enemy "of the people" and berated. These people just can't discuss subjects intelligently, they simply do not have the capacity and prefer to remain ignorant; almost through intent...
Anyway, that's how I see places like The Hole; they have use.
silvereyes (09-22-2018)
So, how, @Dr. Who, do you work deception into what jet uses it for, as a place to let off steam?
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Dr. Who (09-22-2018),Safety (09-22-2018),silvereyes (09-22-2018)
That's not my question so stop dissembling.
My question goes back to Who's intial claim in this thread: "It is mostly an odious venue for bad faith posting, but there are a couple of rules - no attacks on member's families and no threats."
If the Hole has as its purpose a place to break rules then the bad faith breaking of rules does not apply there. You, yourself, jet, use the Hole to attack and insult other members. so my above question to Who about your post is, is jet's use of it in bad faith? No, because that's a purpose of the Hole.
As for lies, just because you disagree with what someone posts doesn't mean they are lying. Good grief, how shallow.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Captdon (09-22-2018)
Captdon (09-22-2018)
Safety (09-22-2018),silvereyes (09-22-2018)
We have people here who use the Hole try to get members banned and disciplined. He attacked the mods. There is one in particular and you aren't him. I am not on your side often but you don't sneak in there as far as I know.
The Hole is what it is. As long as you aren't being attacked it doesn't matter. I rarely look there for anything substantial. It's like recess.
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Pick your enemies carefully.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler