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    Are we trying to become the new China

    Are we trying to become the new China?

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    For a long time china was the throw away land of the world. China used the people of its nation to make China great again! They went all out, and began to produce so many goods that they became the world’s manufacturer. You almost can’t even go to the store and not buy something that does not say made in china.

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    The people of china had to pay a huge price. Not only the people, but their land and resources, and their environment. China partook in the polluting and destruction of their own nation in order that they could prosper as a whole, and it was at the cost of all that had been held dear by those throughout the history of their nation.
    What did the Chinese citizens get out of their prosperous nation? They got to live in cages. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-hutches.html They got to have the most polluted waters in the world. https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...n-comes-from-6 They got to have the very air they breathed be turned to poison. Now they have to buy bottled air to breathe if they want to have a breath of fresh air. They have to buy 10k dollar air filters in order to safely breathe inside of their homes. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...om-Canada.html
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-...elling-7315418
    http://www.takepart.com/article/2015...-canadian-air/ It is even thought that the pollution is affecting cognitive abilities and IQ of the Chinese citizens. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/27/healt...ntl/index.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/w...lth-china.html

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    China has come to realize what it has done to it’s own nation and people. The people of China now want to move on, to become consumers rather than just producers. They have also realized that they want to move forward and become an advanced nation. They want to implement green technology and heal their nation. https://ensia.com/voices/china-is-a-...what-you-read/


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    But America wants to take off where china left off, and become the new producer of the world. America is going full out. We are mining and drilling like never before, and not just for our own energy independence as we have been told. Rather, we are making deals to supply our resources to others in the world. We are working on becoming the worlds new supplier. Not only that, we are also selling our own resources on our land to other nations. We are working hard to become the world’s manufacturer in order to make America great again. We want to prosper, it sounds a lot like what china just moved on from.


    Instead of moving forward with the rest of the world we are moving backwards into the fossil fuel age. We are plundering at a rapid rate, and the consequences are already starting to become apparent. We are seeing gas leaks, oils spills, gas explosions, and manmade red tides.


    When a nation decides that in order to prosper that we need to plunder the lands and use up all of the resources in our one lifetime, and make as much money as we can while we can, then they are taking what belongs to everyone and destroying and burning it all up. No one prospers in the end. For a time the bank accounts of the ultra wealthy will bulge and fatten. The coffers will overflow in abundance. But the thing is that it cannot last. This is a temporary gain, with a very long term damage. The damage that will be done to our earth cannot just be undone. In the case of nuclear energy it can take millions and millions of years to recover.


    We are going down a road of no return once we go down this road there is no coming back.


    Our current administration is blinded by greed. It almost seems like we were infiltrated by an enemy nation from the inside in order that America will fall and be destroyed.


    What they do not know is that there is a reason we refrained from being the world’s manufacturer. We allowed China to take one for the team. I do not agree with this, I am just stating how it is. Not just the US but the whole world did this. We were preserving our lands, and held them to be our national treasures. We made parks and made them off limits, in order to preserve the best of our nation. We did not use up our resource reserves, because we felt we had a responsibility to preserve them for future generations. We allowed other nations who did not feel the same way, to use up theirs while we held onto ours. It was also a strategic move by our nation, that if the rest of the world ran out of resources we would still have ours.


    We allowed other nations to pollute and destroy their own nations, and those nations benefited because we purchased their goods. We benefited because we didn’t have to make those goods or destroy our own lands.


    But the tides have turned. Our president has de regulated everything that he could, and he is not done yet. He is making it so there are no safe guards for the public. He is making is so that anything goes, and no one is to be held accountable. We are going to be seeing a lot more environmental disasters in the near future, and communities that are made sick and who are poisoned from dangerous business practices. Like I said before, I lived near Hanford and that was a toxic place to live, and that was when there were regulations. These regulations were a joke, but our administration thought even those regulations were too much.


    What do you do when and entire population of people get nerve damage, and their babies are born with defects and half the city has cancer? These are crimes against humanity caused by the corporations of the world. You can expect it to get much worse, I fear we haven’t seen anything yet.

    Are we ready to become the new china? If we don't take measures we are going got be in serious trouble.


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    It seems really strange that as the developed nations of the world are trying to move into the future, we are actually promoting moving back into the past. Instead of developing green energy and trying to reduce pollution and manufacturing byproduct harm to our civilian population, we are trying to go all-out with a new industrial age, complete with all the same primitive technology from that same era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Are we trying to become the new China?

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    For a long time china was the throw away land of the world. China used the people of its nation to make China great again! They went all out, and began to produce so many goods that they became the world’s manufacturer. You almost can’t even go to the store and not buy something that does not say made in china.

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    The people of china had to pay a huge price. Not only the people, but their land and resources, and their environment. China partook in the polluting and destruction of their own nation in order that they could prosper as a whole, and it was at the cost of all that had been held dear by those throughout the history of their nation.
    What did the Chinese citizens get out of their prosperous nation? They got to live in cages. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-hutches.html They got to have the most polluted waters in the world. https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...n-comes-from-6 They got to have the very air they breathed be turned to poison. Now they have to buy bottled air to breathe if they want to have a breath of fresh air. They have to buy 10k dollar air filters in order to safely breathe inside of their homes. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...om-Canada.html
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-...elling-7315418
    http://www.takepart.com/article/2015...-canadian-air/ It is even thought that the pollution is affecting cognitive abilities and IQ of the Chinese citizens. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/27/healt...ntl/index.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/w...lth-china.html

    Attachment 24358


    China has come to realize what it has done to it’s own nation and people. The people of China now want to move on, to become consumers rather than just producers. They have also realized that they want to move forward and become an advanced nation. They want to implement green technology and heal their nation. https://ensia.com/voices/china-is-a-...what-you-read/


    Attachment 24360


    But America wants to take off where china left off, and become the new producer of the world. America is going full out. We are mining and drilling like never before, and not just for our own energy independence as we have been told. Rather, we are making deals to supply our resources to others in the world. We are working on becoming the worlds new supplier. Not only that, we are also selling our own resources on our land to other nations. We are working hard to become the world’s manufacturer in order to make America great again. We want to prosper, it sounds a lot like what china just moved on from.


    Instead of moving forward with the rest of the world we are moving backwards into the fossil fuel age. We are plundering at a rapid rate, and the consequences are already starting to become apparent. We are seeing gas leaks, oils spills, gas explosions, and manmade red tides.


    When a nation decides that in order to prosper that we need to plunder the lands and use up all of the resources in our one lifetime, and make as much money as we can while we can, then they are taking what belongs to everyone and destroying and burning it all up. No one prospers in the end. For a time the bank accounts of the ultra wealthy will bulge and fatten. The coffers will overflow in abundance. But the thing is that it cannot last. This is a temporary gain, with a very long term damage. The damage that will be done to our earth cannot just be undone. In the case of nuclear energy it can take millions and millions of years to recover.


    We are going down a road of no return once we go down this road there is no coming back.


    Our current administration is blinded by greed. It almost seems like we were infiltrated by an enemy nation from the inside in order that America will fall and be destroyed.


    What they do not know is that there is a reason we refrained from being the world’s manufacturer. We allowed China to take one for the team. I do not agree with this, I am just stating how it is. Not just the US but the whole world did this. We were preserving our lands, and held them to be our national treasures. We made parks and made them off limits, in order to preserve the best of our nation. We did not use up our resource reserves, because we felt we had a responsibility to preserve them for future generations. We allowed other nations who did not feel the same way, to use up theirs while we held onto ours. It was also a strategic move by our nation, that if the rest of the world ran out of resources we would still have ours.


    We allowed other nations to pollute and destroy their own nations, and those nations benefited because we purchased their goods. We benefited because we didn’t have to make those goods or destroy our own lands.


    But the tides have turned. Our president has de regulated everything that he could, and he is not done yet. He is making it so there are no safe guards for the public. He is making is so that anything goes, and no one is to be held accountable. We are going to be seeing a lot more environmental disasters in the near future, and communities that are made sick and who are poisoned from dangerous business practices. Like I said before, I lived near Hanford and that was a toxic place to live, and that was when there were regulations. These regulations were a joke, but our administration thought even those regulations were too much.


    What do you do when and entire population of people get nerve damage, and their babies are born with defects and half the city has cancer? These are crimes against humanity caused by the corporations of the world. You can expect it to get much worse, I fear we haven’t seen anything yet.

    Are we ready to become the new china? If we don't take measures we are going got be in serious trouble.



    I keep hearing how toxic China is but I keep seeing more and more Chinese people and none of them have 2 heads. I'm not saying it's not bad , I just wonder if it is over hyped .

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    Communist countries are certainly the most polluted in the world
    historically. Why that is so in totally controlled, artificial economies
    is a mystery.

    This is awful. China should invest a fraction of its enormous wealth in cleaning this up. It's totally doable.
    https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/63


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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I keep hearing how toxic China is but I keep seeing more and more Chinese people and none of them have 2 heads. I'm not saying it's not bad , I just wonder if it is over hyped .
    I wouldn't want to live in that poison.
    Why don't they complain about their lack of breathable air? The water looks like it must be toxic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadioGod View Post
    It seems really strange that as the developed nations of the world are trying to move into the future, we are actually promoting moving back into the past. Instead of developing green energy and trying to reduce pollution and manufacturing byproduct harm to our civilian population, we are trying to go all-out with a new industrial age, complete with all the same primitive technology from that same era.
    We have done very well in this country to clean up the air and water, it seems to me. In post-war economies, both Great Britain and the US had episodes of toxic air pollution so bad it killed people.

    Probably never happen again, even if we ramped up industry.
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    China is no longer accepting the waste of the world.

    California’s Recycling Crisis: China Doesn’t Want Our Trash Anymore

    https://sandiegofreepress.org/2018/0...trash-anymore/




    September 19, 2018

    China used to be California’s — and the world’s — largest overseas market for recyclables, but in January, China began not accepting “contaminated” material it once brought to its shores. For China, now, if the recycled material is one-half of 1% contaminated, it’s too impure for recycling.CalRecyle – which runs California’s recycling program – stated in a bulletin in August:“This policy change is already starting to have adverse impacts on California, and is resulting in more material being stockpiled at solid waste facilities and recycling centers or disposed of in landfills.”An official for Recology, a curbside hauler that does San Francisco Bay Area trash for recycling, stated:“There’s no market for a lot of stuff in the blue bin. What we can’t recycle we take to a landfill.”Back in 2017, Recology was getting $100 a ton for newsprint. Now they are averaging about $5 a ton.Yet, Californians shouldn’t blame China, as the executive director of Californians Against Waste, an advocacy group, stated:China’s not the bad guy. To the Chinese credit, they’ve decided they don’t want to have Third World [trash] sorting in their country.”With a growing middle class, China doesn’t want its kids and families sorting through mixed paper and plastic. They no longer want to do our dirty work.
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