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Thread: Trillion-Dollar Deficits Are Already Here. Thanks, Republicans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Maybe he used to be anti-establishment, but that is no longer the case in my opinion.

    He is continuing all the worst policies of the establishment. On foreign policy in particular, he is doing all the things Hillary Clinton promises to do: Provoke Russia, involve ourselves more in the Syrian quagmire, kiss Israel's ass, etc.
    I think the establishment is forcing him into policies he doesn't agree with and to be honest it seems he is being forced into policies he doesn't even know exist. The tail is wagging the dog on a lot of these things and the NY Times and Woodward book point to that.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    We can cut spending by stopping all of these phony investigations of the President and Kavanaugh and all others that the Democrats are using to spend all of our money. We can deport all of the illegals here that we are paying for their healthcare insurance and food stamps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    And yet he will continue to support, defend, donate to and vote for Trump and Republicans, despite the fact that they are piling on the deficits and the debts.

    Put another way, actions speak louder than words.
    Fair point.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Neither Democrats or Republicans have any credibility when it comes to the issue of reducing debt. Only a mindless partisan hack can’t recognize that.

    Anyone who blames exclusively Democrats or Republicans is a freaking partisan hack. There's no valid argument to oppose that view.
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 09-24-2018 at 04:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barb012 View Post
    We can cut spending by stopping all of these phony investigations of the President and Kavanaugh and all others that the Democrats are using to spend all of our money. We can deport all of the illegals here that we are paying for their healthcare insurance and food stamps.
    We can get debt under control by simply limiting spending increases to the rate of inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Trillion-Dollar Deficits Are Already Here. Thanks, Republicans!




    Is this a case of starve the beast or P. J. O'Rourke's "The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it."
    One major party which can $#@! up constantly and still get 95% of the votes despite approval ratings of half that. But this is why I have held back about Trump. I wanted to see what he did with the deficit and debt. Turns out his vaunted tax cuts were made on credit cards.
    Will we ever judge them collectively for their abject failure of the people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    I think the establishment is forcing him into policies he doesn't agree with and to be honest it seems he is being forced into policies he doesn't even know exist. The tail is wagging the dog on a lot of these things and the NY Times and Woodward book point to that.
    The investigations aren't forcing Trump to do anything he doesn't want to do. He's supporting increased spending on the things he claimed to support during his campaign, mostly defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I hate them all. Starve the beast.
    10% across the board cuts until the budget is balanced and we can start paying down the debt. Remember the "scalpel not the hatchet"? The scalpel failed. Also there is no federal program that cannot handle several ten percent cuts. Medicare and SS would be exempt because that was ear marked money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    One major party which can $#@! up constantly and still get 95% of the votes despite approval ratings of half that. But this is why I have held back about Trump. I wanted to see what he did with the deficit and debt. Turns out his vaunted tax cuts were made on credit cards.
    Will we ever judge them collectively for their abject failure of the people?

    Cuts in tax rates generally if not always result in increased revenues flowing in to government. Cuts in tax rates don't need to be paid for. What's needed is to resist the urge to rause soending at a rate greater than the revenue increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    The investigations aren't forcing Trump to do anything he doesn't want to do. He's supporting increased spending on the things he claimed to support during his campaign, mostly defense.
    I'm talking about those within the administration.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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