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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The D's and R's rigged the system by mandating that any third party needs votes in every state. Secondly, third parties can’t launch their own presidential bids until after the two major parties have nominated, leaving them with insufficient time between the end of primary season and the general election to gain meaningful ballot access in enough states to win an Electoral College victory and since the Electoral College is dominated by highly partisan representatives of the D's and R's, it's pretty hopeless. Furthermore, some states actually require third party candidates to have more signatures than members of the D's and R's to qualify. Another little tidbit, in 44 states across the country, if a candidate participates in a partisan primary and loses, they are prevented by state law from appearing on the general election ballot as an independent.

    The rules need to change and the only way that will happen is if people demand that it change. There really should be a referendum in each state, because many who vote D or R only do so because there isn't any other viable option. The duopoly needs competition. America needs more choices and better/more honest representation.
    I agree with you doc, how do you get the Ds and Rs to change the rules that benefit them.

    The people wont force them Liberal progessives dont want any interference with their champion the democrat party and the same applies to the right. Never happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    I agree with you doc, how do you get the Ds and Rs to change the rules that benefit them.

    The people wont force them Liberal progessives dont want any interference with their champion the democrat party and the same applies to the right. Never happen
    I think that people don't realize how much power they really have. If the "#me too" movement can sweep the nation in just a few months, imagine if someone could start a "#third party" movement. All that's needed is to find really well known, popular people to get behind it. After a while, it would take on a life of its own. Social media is a very powerful thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I think that people don't realize how much power they really have. If the "#me too" movement can sweep the nation in just a few months, imagine if someone could start a "#third party" movement. All that's needed is to find really well known, popular people to get behind it. After a while, it would take on a life of its own. Social media is a very powerful thing.
    Agreed. That's why I'm sort of amazed it hasn't happened. I think the majority of us are sick of the division and most people's values fall somewhere in the middle. The hyper polarization and the lack of real leadership on either side has made now the perfect time for another option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Agreed. That's why I'm sort of amazed it hasn't happened. I think the majority of us are sick of the division and most people's values fall somewhere in the middle. The hyper polarization and the lack of real leadership on either side has made now the perfect time for another option.
    It's the elephant tied to a stick syndrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    It's the elephant tied to a stick syndrome.
    Maybe. Or maybe it's just apathy, partisanship, entrenchment, money and laziness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Maybe. Or maybe it's just apathy, partisanship, entrenchment, money and laziness.
    Or all of the above, but I think that many people don't even realize that they have the power to change the status quo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    That makes sense actually it always has and its never happened. If Ron Paul couldnt get it going I doubt anyone else will. Even if an independent runs and wins the WH the R's and D's in congress will crush him/her

    This divide is killing the country, I am not going to point a finger and blame. I am going to say that every american should be for enforcing our border laws, they should all be against sanctuary cities, that is one of the biggest divisive issues and it should not be an issue at all.

    We need to stop the threatening, intimidation tactics and the violence and I think we all know inside even if we wont outwardly admit it, where it all comes from.

    Yes, you should stop the threatening, intimidation tactics and the violence.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    Today, after it was determined that Sen. Collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh, my wife, a life long member of the republican party (47 years) announced that she is leaving the party. She is completely disgusted with the party and says they have lost all touch with reality. She will now be unaffiliated with any party. I hugged her and said “welcome to the club”.

    For years, she was the eternal optimist and defender of the republican party and found it hard to understand why I wasn't affiliated with any party. Only in the past year has she become more and more disenchanted with the party's values. She told me this afternoon now she understands why I refuse to be a member of any political party.

    We are both going out for a drink tonight to celebrate.
    So your wife likes to see men hung merely because women lie about them?

    Nice.
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    Yeh, the left is violent ~ you're right stop threatening the American People ~ like that hag ~ telling the left to get in our face when we go out to eat and go to our homes and scare our children ~ Some a na burchtinsges ```

    maybe this will go against them ~ like it should ```

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    Collins ~ Ok good for her ~ good thinking ```

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