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    Political Decentralization As a Check On Tyranny & Corruption

    The question of how to minimize or constrain the tyrannical impulses and corrupt practices of people wielding government authority has been examined extensively since the emergence of philosophy itself. I will forgo any attempt to summarize the arguments surrounding that topic and simply skip ahead to what I think is the best argument made so far. In a word, decentralization.

    Keeping in mind that this is somewhat of a simplification, decentralization posits that political power should be maximally dispersed or diffused. Concentrated power almost always produces some degree of tyranny and corruption. For whatever reason, human nature is easily corrupted by power. Perhaps if you gave a monkey the same power as a president, he would also end up abusing it somehow. But I don't think anyone is going to deny that the more power a person has, the more liable they are to be corrupted by it. Decentralization addresses this problem by limiting the extent of political authority via localization. To reduce it to its most simple formulation, consider governments that are not allowed to govern more than 1,000 residents or 10 square miles of territory. In such situations, the government will never become powerful enough to tyrannize more than just a few people. And even if such a government were theoretically able to tyrannize its entire population of 1,000 residents, it would still be a relatively small amount of people. So decentralization will not eliminate tyranny, but it will place hard limits on its extent.

    Another benefit of decentralization is that tyranny, should it come into being, is much easier to combat than a highly centralized form of tyranny. For starters, a localized government has less resources at its disposal. For obvious reasons, this makes it more difficult to crack down on resistance. For another, a localized government is, well, localized. For logistical reasons, it's much easier to influence a government when it is within walking distance of your house. And as a last resort, localized tyranny is much easier to escape. All you need to do is walk a few miles and you're in a different jurisdiction. Decentralization maximizes the amount of political choice that a person has.

    One more benefit of decentralization is that it's more democratic. Mathematically speaking, it's basic logic. If you vote in an election with 999 other people, the smallest effect you could have an election is 0.1% (one vote out of a thousand). That may not seem like a lot, but consider just how insignificant your vote becomes when the electorate is in the millions or hundreds of millions.

    None of this is to imply that decentralization is perfect. Only that it is a very good check on tyranny and corruption.
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    The Founders intended decentralization, although not to the extent you advocate for. The federal government should be limited to the enumerated powers and everything else is left to the states and to the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The question of how to minimize or constrain the tyrannical impulses and corrupt practices of people wielding government authority has been examined extensively since the emergence of philosophy itself. I will forgo any attempt to summarize the arguments surrounding that topic and simply skip ahead to what I think is the best argument made so far. In a word, decentralization.

    Keeping in mind that this is somewhat of a simplification, decentralization posits that political power should be maximally dispersed or diffused. Concentrated power almost always produces some degree of tyranny and corruption. For whatever reason, human nature is easily corrupted by power. Perhaps if you gave a monkey the same power as a president, he would also end up abusing it somehow. But I don't think anyone is going to deny that the more power a person has, the more liable they are to be corrupted by it. Decentralization addresses this problem by limiting the extent of political authority via localization. To reduce it to its most simple formulation, consider governments that are not allowed to govern more than 1,000 residents or 10 square miles of territory. In such situations, the government will never become powerful enough to tyrannize more than just a few people. And even if such a government were theoretically able to tyrannize its entire population of 1,000 residents, it would still be a relatively small amount of people. So decentralization will not eliminate tyranny, but it will place hard limits on its extent.

    Another benefit of decentralization is that tyranny, should it come into being, is much easier to combat than a highly centralized form of tyranny. For starters, a localized government has less resources at its disposal. For obvious reasons, this makes it more difficult to crack down on resistance. For another, a localized government is, well, localized. For logistical reasons, it's much easier to influence a government when it is within walking distance of your house. And as a last resort, localized tyranny is much easier to escape. All you need to do is walk a few miles and you're in a different jurisdiction. Decentralization maximizes the amount of political choice that a person has.

    One more benefit of decentralization is that it's more democratic. Mathematically speaking, it's basic logic. If you vote in an election with 999 other people, the smallest effect you could have an election is 0.1% (one vote out of a thousand). That may not seem like a lot, but consider just how insignificant your vote becomes when the electorate is in the millions or hundreds of millions.

    None of this is to imply that decentralization is perfect. Only that it is a very good check on tyranny and corruption.
    1000 people? They wouldn't be able to collect the garbage. It isn't the size of government it's the size of the federal government. The people of California seem happy with their state government.
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    The founders, revolutionaries, gave us the Articles of Confederation. A counter-revolutionary movement gave us the Constitution. And now we deal with Leviathon. It was counterproductive. Under the Articles, I believe, the states would have allowed for much greater local self-government.
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    When I use the term Founders, I am referring to the Constitution.

    I have very little regard for the Articles of Confederation. It was unworkable and had we kept it we likely would have been carved up by European powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    When I use the term Founders, I am referring to the Constitution.

    I have very little regard for the Articles of Confederation. It was unworkable and had we kept it we likely would have been carved up by European powers.
    Right, it didn't work for a few who wanted a stronger, centralized, powerful government, which we got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Right, it didn't work for a few who wanted a stronger, centralized, powerful government, which we got.
    The Founders did not create a very powerful federal government. See Art. 1, sec. 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Founders did not create a very powerful federal government. See Art. 1, sec. 8.
    Don't want to turn from the topic to what the founders wanted but in the Articles there's a key word, expressly:

    Articles of Confederation, Article II: Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.

    The Constitution, it was debated, omits that and opens the door to implied powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Don't want to turn from the topic to what the founders wanted but in the Articles there's a key word, expressly:

    Articles of Confederation, Article II: Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.

    The Constitution, it was debated, omits that and opens the door to implied powers.
    The biggest weakness of the Articles was that the Federal government couldn't do a thing unless the states funded them.

    States retain their sovereignty under the Constitution. It is often, but not always ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The question of how to minimize or constrain the tyrannical impulses and corrupt practices of people wielding government authority has been examined extensively since the emergence of philosophy itself. I will forgo any attempt to summarize the arguments surrounding that topic and simply skip ahead to what I think is the best argument made so far. In a word, decentralization.

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    Another benefit of decentralization is that tyranny, should it come into being, is much easier to combat than a highly centralized form of tyranny. For starters, a localized government has less resources at its disposal. For obvious reasons, this makes it more difficult to crack down on resistance. For another, a localized government is, well, localized. For logistical reasons, it's much easier to influence a government when it is within walking distance of your house. And as a last resort, localized tyranny is much easier to escape. All you need to do is walk a few miles and you're in a different jurisdiction. Decentralization maximizes the amount of political choice that a person has.

    One more benefit of decentralization is that it's more democratic. Mathematically speaking, it's basic logic. If you vote in an election with 999 other people, the smallest effect you could have an election is 0.1% (one vote out of a thousand). That may not seem like a lot, but consider just how insignificant your vote becomes when the electorate is in the millions or hundreds of millions.

    None of this is to imply that decentralization is perfect. Only that it is a very good check on tyranny and corruption.
    Decentralization certainly has had this effect historically. It limits power. In Medieval Europe, it was conscious effort
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