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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    It doesn't appear that any state could be decentralized in your view so virtually every historical instance is disqualified. If that's the case then what would equate to decentralized?
    Pre-civilized modes of government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Pre-civilized modes of government.
    Then we're talking past one another. Not sure we can find common ground here. We're not talking about the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Or the longevity of Rome's occupation, which certainly had a geographic component.



    Probably with Charlemagne. He consolidated various tribes in what was formerly Roman Gaul under a Frankish or French banner.
    I was referring to much later- perhaps around the time of King Louis XIV (the Sun King). The geography of France made it much easier to consolidate and centralize power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I was referring to much later- perhaps around the time of King Louis XIV (the Sun King). The geography of France made it much easier to consolidate and centralize power.
    That would fairly accurate. There was a major revolt precipitated be Louis' centralization.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fronde
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