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    False reports of sexual assault not as rare as claimed, studies show

    The assertion from forces against Brett M. Kavanaugh that false allegations of rape or attempted rape are extremely rare is rebutted by a number of studies, researchers say.

    Liberals on TV and social media said repeatedly during the Senate confirmation process that only 2 percent of charges are lies — meaning there likely would be truth in the majority of such charges, such as that of Christine Blasey Ford, who accused now-Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her 36 years ago.


    Brent E. Turvey
    , a criminologist, wrote a 2017 book that dispels this notion. His research, and that of two co-authors, cited statistical studies and police crime reports. One academic study showed that as many as 40 percent of sexual assault charges are false. Mr. Turvey wrote that the FBI in the 1990s pegged the falsity rate at 8 percent for rape or attempted rape complaints.


    “There is no shortage of politicians, victims’ advocates and news articles claiming that the nationwide false report for rape and sexual assault is almost nonexistent, presenting a figure of around 2 percent,” writes Mr. Turvey, who directs the Forensic Criminology Institute. “This figure is not only inaccurate, but also it has no basis in reality. Reporting it publicly as a valid frequency rate with any empirical basis is either scientifically negligent or fraudulent.”


    A recent study supports this assessment. The Pentagon issues an annual report on sexual assaults in the military. Nearly one-quarter of all cases last year were thrown out for lack of evidence, according to a report released in May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    The assertion from forces against Brett M. Kavanaugh that false allegations of rape or attempted rape are extremely rare is rebutted by a number of studies, researchers say.

    Liberals on TV and social media said repeatedly during the Senate confirmation process that only 2 percent of charges are lies — meaning there likely would be truth in the majority of such charges, such as that of Christine Blasey Ford, who accused now-Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her 36 years ago.


    Brent E. Turvey
    , a criminologist, wrote a 2017 book that dispels this notion. His research, and that of two co-authors, cited statistical studies and police crime reports. One academic study showed that as many as 40 percent of sexual assault charges are false. Mr. Turvey wrote that the FBI in the 1990s pegged the falsity rate at 8 percent for rape or attempted rape complaints.


    “There is no shortage of politicians, victims’ advocates and news articles claiming that the nationwide false report for rape and sexual assault is almost nonexistent, presenting a figure of around 2 percent,” writes Mr. Turvey, who directs the Forensic Criminology Institute. “This figure is not only inaccurate, but also it has no basis in reality. Reporting it publicly as a valid frequency rate with any empirical basis is either scientifically negligent or fraudulent.”


    A recent study supports this assessment. The Pentagon issues an annual report on sexual assaults in the military. Nearly one-quarter of all cases last year were thrown out for lack of evidence, according to a report released in May.

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    It amazes any thoughtful person how evil comes to be acceptable, simply posit a theory, make up stats and the mind is convinced. It allows otherwise normal humans a way out, an excuse. Everyone who has lived long enough knows there are things you don't forget, experiences burned into your brain, people and situations that will be with you always. Apologetics are everywhere and one can find a so called expert who argues day is night and night day and some will follow if it fits what they want to believe or accept. Why are some so easily led.

    “The person lying on top of you — who she’d previously met - you’re not going to forget that,” said Richard Huganir, a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. “There’s a total consensus in the field of memory ... If anything, fear and trauma enhances the encoding of the memory at a molecular level."

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    Yes, there are experts that will say just about anything. That is for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    The assertion from forces against Brett M. Kavanaugh that false allegations of rape or attempted rape are extremely rare is rebutted by a number of studies, researchers say.

    Liberals on TV and social media said repeatedly during the Senate confirmation process that only 2 percent of charges are lies — meaning there likely would be truth in the majority of such charges, such as that of Christine Blasey Ford, who accused now-Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her 36 years ago.


    Brent E. Turvey
    , a criminologist, wrote a 2017 book that dispels this notion. His research, and that of two co-authors, cited statistical studies and police crime reports. One academic study showed that as many as 40 percent of sexual assault charges are false. Mr. Turvey wrote that the FBI in the 1990s pegged the falsity rate at 8 percent for rape or attempted rape complaints.


    “There is no shortage of politicians, victims’ advocates and news articles claiming that the nationwide false report for rape and sexual assault is almost nonexistent, presenting a figure of around 2 percent,” writes Mr. Turvey, who directs the Forensic Criminology Institute. “This figure is not only inaccurate, but also it has no basis in reality. Reporting it publicly as a valid frequency rate with any empirical basis is either scientifically negligent or fraudulent.”


    A recent study supports this assessment. The Pentagon issues an annual report on sexual assaults in the military. Nearly one-quarter of all cases last year were thrown out for lack of evidence, according to a report released in May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    It amazes any thoughtful person how evil comes to be acceptable, simply posit a theory, make up stats and the mind is convinced. It allows otherwise normal humans a way out, an excuse. Everyone who has lived long enough knows there are things you don't forget, experiences burned into your brain, people and situations that will be with you always. Apologetics are everywhere and one can find a so called expert who argues day is night and night day and some will follow if it fits what they want to believe or accept. Why are some so easily led.

    “The person lying on top of you — who she’d previously met - you’re not going to forget that,” said Richard Huganir, a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. “There’s a total consensus in the field of memory ... If anything, fear and trauma enhances the encoding of the memory at a molecular level."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...searchers-say/


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    "The main hypothesis concerning group-think is this: the more amiability and espirt de corps among the members of an in-group of policymakers the greater the danger that independent critical thinking will be replaced by groupthink, which is likely to result in irrational and the dehumanizing actions directed at out-groups." Irving L. Janis in 'Sanctions for Evil'
    this, coming from a socialist and a democrat, you. What has the last even shown you. That liberals oppose anything and everything conservative. It is your side of the fence that demands group think, as clearly demonstrated by the win of Trump and the win of Kavanaugh. See all those people wearing pink pu55y hats at just one march, marching lockstep down the highways and by ways of DC, threatening to blow up the WH......that kind of group think?
    You want us to feel like you, but we want you to think as we do, with independent critical thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Yes, there are experts that will say just about anything. That is for sure.
    Thats exactly right, so which experts do you believe, the ones that say what you want or the ones that say what you dont.

    However, being a police officer for 28 yrs I know there are false accusations made for sexual assault and rape, what percentage I dont know.

    Rape is much easier to prove or disprove than sexual assault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Thats exactly right, so which experts do you believe, the ones that say what you want or the ones that say what you dont.

    However, being a police officer for 28 yrs I know there are false accusations made for sexual assault and rape, what percentage I dont know.

    Rape is much easier to prove or disprove than sexual assault
    It helps to name witnesses that actually witnessed something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    It helps to name witnesses that actually witnessed something.
    Thats the problem with sex assault and rape there are rarely witness'

    If a woman is raped the "BEST" thing she can do to assure her rapist does the time is report it and get a rape kit.

    The entire sexual assault and rape situation is just lousy for women but it can be very bad for men.

    The womens movement wants us to adopt a "The woman is ALWAYS to be believeD", the problem with that is some women lie.

    So to believe all women when they claim sexual assault or rape means innocent men get destroyed in the process. There is no good path to take with this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Thats exactly right, so which experts do you believe, the ones that say what you want or the ones that say what you dont.

    However, being a police officer for 28 yrs I know there are false accusations made for sexual assault and rape, what percentage I dont know.

    Rape is much easier to prove or disprove than sexual assault
    I think people believe that most forcible rape is a case of a man holding a woman down while muffling her screams and deftly dis-roping her and then hitting a moving target without penial fracture somehow .I never tried that but I'm guessing it's really really hard. That's why rapist often beat their poor victim to submission, tie them up or use a weapon . There is also often trama in the penetration area. You know the kind of stuff that leaves proof. Proof for days, not years, certainly not 30 years.

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