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    Is The American Experiment now dying?

    This thing we commonly refer to as "The American Experiment"--has it, at last, failed?

    More than 150 years ago, it appeared to have failed, when the country tore itself apart during the Civil War.

    Yet it eventually recovered (albeit with a delayed healing, due to the punitive Reconstruction Era).

    At present, by contrast, we do not have a shooting civil war--not yet, anyway (unless one believes that the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise--in June of 2017--represents the beginning of such a war).

    But it seems increasingly likely that this could yet occur.

    The left in this country--especially the hard left--no longer believes in due process and the rule of law. In fact, it does not even pretend to.

    It appears to believe, instead, in the rule of the mob.

    In other words: anarchy.

    No, not all liberals--especially not thoughtful ones--fall neatly into this category. Alan Dershowitz, for example--and Jonathan Turley (both top legal minds)--do not fit this mold at all.

    Increasingly, however, the American left--and especially young, passionate people--seem to believe that if they cannot get their preferred way, well, then they ought to turn to mob rule.

    The Bolsheviks of about 100 years ago would have been of them.

    At any rate, it all leads we to wonder: If so many people no longer have faith in our fundamental institutions, are we really far from societal collapse--or else genuine civil war?
    Last edited by pjohns; 10-08-2018 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    This thing we commonly refer to as "The American Experiment"--has it, at last, failed?

    More than 150 years ago, it appeared to have failed, when the country tore itself apart during the Civil War.

    Yet it eventually recovered (albeit with a delayed healing, due to the punitive Reconstruction Era).

    At present, by contrast, we do not have a shooting civil war--not yet, anyway (unless one believes that the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise--in June of 2017--represents the beginning of such a war).

    But it seems increasingly likely that this could yet occur.

    The left in this country--especially the hard left--no longer believes in due process and the rule of law. In fact, it does not even pretend to.

    It appears to believe, instead, in the rule of the mob.

    In other words: anarchy.

    No, not all liberals--especially not thoughtful ones--fall neatly into this category. Alan Dershowitz, for example--and Jonathan Turley (both top legal minds)--do not fit this mold at all.

    Increasingly, however, the American left--and especially young, passionate people--seem to believe that if they cannot get their preferred way, well, then they ought to turn to mob rule.

    The Bolsheviks of about 100 years ago would have been of them.

    At any rate, it all leads we to wonder: If so many people no longer have faith in our fundamental institutions, are we really far from societal collapse--or else genuine civil war?
    This had potential but you seem blind to anything on the right. Now it's just another left bashing article.
    Last edited by Trish; 10-08-2018 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    This thing we commonly refer to as "The American Experiment"--has it, at last, failed?

    More than 150 years ago, it appeared to have failed, when the country tore itself apart during the Civil War.

    Yet it eventually recovered (albeit with a delayed healing, due to the punitive Reconstruction Era).

    At present, by contrast, we do not have a shooting civil war--not yet, anyway (unless one believes that the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise--in June of 2017--represents the beginning of such a war).

    But it seems increasingly likely that this could yet occur.

    The left in this country--especially the hard left--no longer believes in due process and the rule of law. In fact, it does not even pretend to.

    It appears to believe, instead, in the rule of the mob.

    In other words: anarchy.

    No, not all liberals--especially not thoughtful ones--fall neatly into this category. Alan Dershowitz, for example--and Jonathan Turley (both top legal minds)--do not fit this mold at all.

    Increasingly, however, the American left--and especially young, passionate people--seem to believe that if they cannot get their preferred way, well, then they ought to turn to mob rule.

    The Bolsheviks of about 100 years ago would have been of them.

    At any rate, it all leads we to wonder: If so many people no longer have faith in our fundamental institutions, are we really far from societal collapse--or else genuine civil war?
    The left has taken mob rule as their mantra. Not one leftist leader has condemned anti-Fa and they are violent. Not one leader has said anything bad about MS-13 and they are the most dangerous gang in history.

    The leaders of the left have praised the mob. I don't know where this is going to go but it won't go peacefully. If society starts to collapse a lot of lefties are going to die in the collapse.

    How anyone rational person could vote for democrats is beyond me. Stupidity seems to be the word of the day for the left.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    This had potential but you seem blind to anything on the right. Now it's just another left bashing article.
    Yet, you offer no argument.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    The American Experiment ~ if your refer to the this wonderful land and people and the government formed over 200 years ago ~ has been a giant
    success ~ the American People have been the most grateful and generous people on earth ~ have reached out to help even die for others through the world ```

    Today America ~ and the People of America are under attack ~ by that political system with religious qualifications born or spawned in the European gutter ~ that is of course Communism ~ it is now concentrating on America the apple at the top of the top ``` America has already had ~ for 8 years ~ a marxist president here in the at the top of the hill ~ who advanced the global wants of communism and damaged us in many ways ~ putting U.S. in blinding debt ```

    The American People ~ are awake today ~ and have against the power of the press, of Hollywood , of the left wing educational system , of the politicians , of the communists everywhere in every corner of this world ~ choosen Our President ~ they/we against the intent of the monster left that seeks to Marry us, Bury us ~ raise the Communist Flag over America ~ as if it was US doing that raising ~ we are about fixing ~ curing the hurts done ~ all of us ~ all Americans and all who love us should help ~ support our President ~ the Left is getting more violent as they have in other parts of the world ~ attacking from inside and outside of our own governmental system ```

    God love America ~ may He help us ~ as we help ourselves ```

    All Americans are Brothers and Sisters ~ I'll stand with you ~ as you with me ~ to the return and repair of our ~ this wonderful land and people ~ government of the free ```

    God Bless you who love and support America ~ Lord please Give to those who attack U.S. ~ not what they want ~ but ~ what they deserve ```

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    Quote Originally Posted by valley ranch View Post
    The American Experiment ~ if your refer to the this wonderful land and people and the government formed over 200 years ago ~ has been a giant
    success ~ the American People have been the most grateful and generous people on earth ~ have reached out to help even die for others through the world ```

    Today America ~ and the People of America are under attack ~ by that political system with religious qualifications born or spawned in the European gutter ~ that is of course Communism ~ it is now concentrating on America the apple at the top of the top ``` America has already had ~ for 8 years ~ a marxist president here in the at the top of the hill ~ who advanced the global wants of communism and damaged us in many ways ~ putting U.S. in blinding debt ```

    The American People ~ are awake today ~ and have against the power of the press, of Hollywood , of the left wing educational system , of the politicians , of the communists everywhere in every corner of this world ~ choosen Our President ~ they/we against the intent of the monster left that seeks to Marry us, Bury us ~ raise the Communist Flag over America ~ as if it was US doing that raising ~ we are about fixing ~ curing the hurts done ~ all of us ~ all Americans and all who love us should help ~ support our President ~ the Left is getting more violent as they have in other parts of the world ~ attacking from inside and outside of our own governmental system ```

    God love America ~ may He help us ~ as we help ourselves ```

    All Americans are Brothers and Sisters ~ I'll stand with you ~ as you with me ~ to the return and repair of our ~ this wonderful land and people ~ government of the free ```

    God Bless you who love and support America ~ Lord please Give to those who attack U.S. ~ not what they want ~ but ~ what they deserve ```
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    This had potential but you seem blind to anything on the right. Now it's just another left bashing article.
    Sorry but you don’t see anyone on the right violently protesting or scrabbling at the doors of Congress to get their way.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Sorry but you don’t see anyone on the right violently protesting or scrabbling at the doors of Congress to get their way.
    Protest is a fundamental part of our American fabric. Are you opposed to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Protest is a fundamental part of our American fabric. Are you opposed to that?
    Certainly not the snowflake leftie protests. They work great at disgusting normals.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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