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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    It also assumes that they have included every possible factor that affects climate. If they miss something what good are the computer models?
    The question is are the models predictive. Based on what we've seen lately they would seem to be. Certainly, you can't include every factor as you say but that doesn't invalidate the models in their entirety or to use T's language, "Garbage".
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    That assumes its garbage in. Also, don't change what I've said. I said "close to" unanimous. The peer reviewed literature is pretty clear.
    It's as clear as mud.

    If one was honest, one would admit that there's no scientific evidence which supports the hoax of man made global warming. That's why so many people get caugh faking data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    The question is are the models predictive. Based on what we've seen lately they would seem to be. Certainly, you can't include every factor as you say but that doesn't invalidate the models in their entirety or to use T's language, "Garbage".

    Computer models are based on the garbage used for input. Computer models are not scientific data and that's the only place global warming exists.

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    Lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    That assumes its garbage in. Also, don't change what I've said. I said "close to" unanimous. The peer reviewed literature is pretty clear.
    Real world data has shown no increase in global temps over the last two decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Lol...
    Who cares what you think. You believe a Supreme Court justice can repeal a passed law on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Whats even more amazing are people who keep their head in the sand over this issue.
    You mean the ignorant that only know what they are told by the media and alarmists what to think?
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

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    I guess that having most all of the worlds nations trying to end co2 emissions is just a fluke of nature not an agreement that man can effect the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    The question is are the models predictive. Based on what we've seen lately they would seem to be. Certainly, you can't include every factor as you say but that doesn't invalidate the models in their entirety or to use T's language, "Garbage".
    You mean because they continue to predict temperatures higher than observed science?

    There is a saying in science. All models are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    The question is are the models predictive. Based on what we've seen lately they would seem to be. Certainly, you can't include every factor as you say but that doesn't invalidate the models in their entirety or to use T's language, "Garbage".
    There are many models- only the ones that show a lower increase in temperature are close to reality. Most are way overblown.
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