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    The costs of limiting CO2 emissions

    The costs of limiting CO2 emissions

    Of course this will never be implemented, but it is the recommendation of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s recommendation. Taxes on CO2 emissions at $27,000 per ton. For Americans, if done as a gas tax, would equal $240 per gallon.

    A United Nations special climate report suggests a tax on carbon dioxide emissions would need to be as high as $27,000 per ton at the end of the century to effectively limit global warming.

    For Americans, that’s the same as a $240 per gallon tax on gasoline in the year 2100, should such a recommendation be adopted. In 2030, the report says a carbon tax would need to be as high as $5,500 — that’s equivalent to a $49 per gallon gas tax.


    If you think that’s an unlikely scenario, you’re probably not wrong. However, it’s what the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s report, released Sunday night, sees as a policy option for reducing emissions enough to keep projected warming below 1.5 degrees Celsius.



    The IPCC’s report is meant to galvanize political support for doubling down on the Paris climate accord ahead of a U.N. climate summit scheduled for December. The report calls for societal changes that are “unprecedented in terms of scale” in order to limit future global warming to below 1.5 degrees Celsius, the stretch goal of the Paris accord.



    However, the costs of meeting that goal are high based on the IPCC’s own figures.

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    And a related article from the UN: UN report on global warming carries life-or-death warning

    To sum up the article: we are doomed, $#@!ed even. (Hat tip to Aliens)

    Preventing an extra single degree of heat could make a life-or-death difference in the next few decades for multitudes of people and ecosystems on this fast-warming planet, an international panel of scientists reported Sunday. But they provide little hope the world will rise to the challenge.

    The Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issued its gloomy report at a meeting in Incheon, South Korea.


    In the 728-page document, the U.N. organization detailed how Earth's weather, health and ecosystems would be in better shape if the world's leaders could somehow limit future human-caused warming to just 0.9 degrees Fahrenheit (a half degree Celsius) from now, instead of the globally agreed-upon goal of 1.8 degrees F (1 degree C). Among other things:


    — Half as many people would suffer from lack of water.


    — There would be fewer deaths and illnesses from heat, smog and infectious diseases.


    — Seas would rise nearly 4 inches (0.1 meters) less.


    — Half as many animals with back bones and plants would lose the majority of their habitats.


    — There would be substantially fewer heat waves, downpours and droughts.


    — The West Antarctic ice sheet might not kick into irreversible melting.


    — And it just may be enough to save most of the world's coral reefs from dying.



    "For some people this is a life-or-death situation without a doubt," said Cornell University climate scientist Natalie Mahowald, a lead author on the report.


    Limiting warming to 0.9 degrees from now means the world can keep "a semblance" of the ecosystems we have. Adding another 0.9 degrees on top of that — the looser global goal — essentially means a different and more challenging Earth for people and species, said another of the report's lead authors, Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, director of the Global Change Institute at the University of Queensland, Australia.


    But meeting the more ambitious goal of slightly less warming would require immediate, draconian cuts in emissions of heat-trapping gases and dramatic changes in the energy field. While the U.N. panel says technically that's possible, it saw little chance of the needed adjustments happening.
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    It's incredible that some people can still deny the political motivations behind the global warming hoax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It's incredible that some people can still deny the political motivations behind the global warming hoax.
    Whats even more amazing are people who keep their head in the sand over this issue.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Whats even more amazing are people who keep their head in the sand over this issue.
    It’s a hoax. Knowing that isn’t burying your head in sand. However not recognizing that is placing your head in rectal defilade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It’s a hoax. Knowing that isn’t burying your head in sand. However not recognizing that is placing your head in rectal defilade.
    Please. The science is pretty clear and close to unanimous. Saying it isn't doesn't make it so.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Please. The science is pretty clear and close to unanimous. Saying it isn't doesn't make it so.
    It’s not. Computer models isn’t credible science. Remember this.... Garbage in, garbage out.

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    Unanimous... gawd that’s funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It’s not. Computer models isn’t credible science. Remember this.... Garbage in, garbage out.
    That assumes its garbage in. Also, don't change what I've said. I said "close to" unanimous. The peer reviewed literature is pretty clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    That assumes its garbage in. Also, don't change what I've said. I said "close to" unanimous. The peer reviewed literature is pretty clear.
    It also assumes that they have included every possible factor that affects climate. If they miss something what good are the computer models?
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