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    McConnell Walks It Back...Just in Case

    Mitch McConnell Refuses To Rule Out Senate Confirming A Supreme Court Pick In 2020

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has been peddling a new story about his decision to block President Barack Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court in 2016.

    McConnell declined to allow any hearings on Garland after Obama chose him in March 2016 as his pick for the high court following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. The Senate leader claimed the vacancy shouldn’t be filled in the months leading up to a presidential election, citing historical precedent.


    But on Sunday, McConnell offered a revised version of his reasoning and refused to say he wouldn’t push for confirmation of a potential Supreme Court nominee from President Donald Trump in 2020.

    Discussing Brett Kavanaugh’s Saturday confirmation to the court, Fox News’ Chris Wallace asked McConnell to respond to a clip of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) slamming the Kentucky lawmaker’s handling of the Garland nomination.

    “We didn’t attack Merrick Garland’s background and try to destroy him,” McConnell responded on “Fox News Sunday.” “We simply followed the tradition in America, which is that if you have... a Senate of a different party than the president you don’t fill a vacancy created in a presidential year. That went all the way back to 1888.”


    Wallace, picking up on McConnell’s revised version of his rationale for blocking Garland, pressed him on his mention of party difference.


    “When you blocked Merrick Garland’s nomination from President Obama, you basically said that we don’t do this in a presidential election year, and that we wait until the election and then whoever the people choose (for the White House), they get to pick the Supreme Court nominee,” Wallace said. “But what you just said now was it’s a question of whether or not the party in control of the Senate is different than the president.”

    “If Donald Trump were to name somebody in the final year of his first term in 2020, are you saying that you would go ahead with that nomination?” he asked McConnell.

    McConnell danced around the inquiry, pointing again to the Senate’s voting record in the 1880s. When Wallace tried to ask the question again, McConnell interrupted him: “The answer to your question is we’ll see whether there’s a vacancy in 2020.”


    Later Sunday, CBS News’ John Dickerson continued to grill McConnell about his reason for blocking Garland’s nomination.


    “Your decision to block Merrick Garland is something [Democrats] see as having kicked off a new stage in the partisanship associated with Supreme Court nominees,” Dickerson said on CBS’ “Face The Nation.”


    McConnell claimed again that he had been merely following historical precedent, but Dickerson challenged him on the facts.

    “John you are not listening to me,” McConnell said. “The history is exactly as I told you.” Dickerson responded that they “have a disagreement about the history.”

    The Republican senator’s remarks on Sunday echoed his response to reporters a day earlier when asked a similar question about a potential 2020 Supreme Court nominee.

    “We’ll see what it looks like in 2020,” McConnell said.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Mitch McConnell Refuses To Rule Out Senate Confirming A Supreme Court Pick In 2020

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has been peddling a new story about his decision to block President Barack Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court in 2016.

    McConnell declined to allow any hearings on Garland after Obama chose him in March 2016 as his pick for the high court following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. The Senate leader claimed the vacancy shouldn’t be filled in the months leading up to a presidential election, citing historical precedent.


    But on Sunday, McConnell offered a revised version of his reasoning and refused to say he wouldn’t push for confirmation of a potential Supreme Court nominee from President Donald Trump in 2020.

    Discussing Brett Kavanaugh’s Saturday confirmation to the court, Fox News’ Chris Wallace asked McConnell to respond to a clip of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) slamming the Kentucky lawmaker’s handling of the Garland nomination.

    “We didn’t attack Merrick Garland’s background and try to destroy him,” McConnell responded on “Fox News Sunday.” “We simply followed the tradition in America, which is that if you have... a Senate of a different party than the president you don’t fill a vacancy created in a presidential year. That went all the way back to 1888.”


    Wallace, picking up on McConnell’s revised version of his rationale for blocking Garland, pressed him on his mention of party difference.


    “When you blocked Merrick Garland’s nomination from President Obama, you basically said that we don’t do this in a presidential election year, and that we wait until the election and then whoever the people choose (for the White House), they get to pick the Supreme Court nominee,” Wallace said. “But what you just said now was it’s a question of whether or not the party in control of the Senate is different than the president.”

    “If Donald Trump were to name somebody in the final year of his first term in 2020, are you saying that you would go ahead with that nomination?” he asked McConnell.

    McConnell danced around the inquiry, pointing again to the Senate’s voting record in the 1880s. When Wallace tried to ask the question again, McConnell interrupted him: “The answer to your question is we’ll see whether there’s a vacancy in 2020.”


    Later Sunday, CBS News’ John Dickerson continued to grill McConnell about his reason for blocking Garland’s nomination.


    “Your decision to block Merrick Garland is something [Democrats] see as having kicked off a new stage in the partisanship associated with Supreme Court nominees,” Dickerson said on CBS’ “Face The Nation.”


    McConnell claimed again that he had been merely following historical precedent, but Dickerson challenged him on the facts.

    “John you are not listening to me,” McConnell said. “The history is exactly as I told you.” Dickerson responded that they “have a disagreement about the history.”

    The Republican senator’s remarks on Sunday echoed his response to reporters a day earlier when asked a similar question about a potential 2020 Supreme Court nominee.

    “We’ll see what it looks like in 2020,” McConnell said.



    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b028e1fe3e6eab




    We should stick with historical precedent- no SCOTUS nominations leading up to a presidential election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We should stick with historical precedent- no SCOTUS nominations leading up to a presidential election.
    I might agree with that sentiment if there existed a universally accepted meaning for the phrase "leading up to".

    Antonin Scalia died on February 13th, with roughly nine months to go before the general election, and a little more than eleven months until a new President would take office. Are we going to say that a President shouldn't be permitted to nominate a Supreme Court justice during the year leading up to the election - or perhaps during the year leading up to his successor's inauguration?

    I don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest that as long as the Senate is in the hands of the President's Party, such a rule - unless it is somehow codified into law - would be blithely ignored, or that some justification for ignoring it would certainly be trotted out. McConnell is as much as saying that now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I might agree with that sentiment if there existed a universally accepted meaning for the phrase "leading up to".

    Antonin Scalia died on February 13th, with roughly nine months to go before the general election, and a little more than eleven months until a new President would take office. Are we going to say that a President shouldn't be permitted to nominate a Supreme Court justice during the year leading up to the election - or perhaps during the year leading up to his successor's inauguration?

    I don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest that as long as the Senate is in the hands of the President's Party, such a rule - unless it is somehow codified into law - would be blithely ignored, or that some justification for ignoring it would certainly be trotted out. McConnell is as much as saying that now.
    It is not law but historical precedent. I have not researched the typical time period covered. Shumer (SP) wanted it extended to 19 month for Bush Jr. That was ridiculous.
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    Mitch will do whatever it takes to cement a conservative majority in the SCOTUS. They've been building for this for 50 years. He'll come up with some rationale for a last minute nomination were it to come to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Mitch will do whatever it takes to cement a conservative majority in the SCOTUS. They've been building for this for 50 years. He'll come up with some rationale for a last minute nomination were it to come to that.
    Winning an election gives you the power to make the rules. Harry Reid did it and that's the way it is.

    The conservative majority is cemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Mitch will do whatever it takes to cement a conservative majority in the SCOTUS. They've been building for this for 50 years. He'll come up with some rationale for a last minute nomination were it to come to that.
    It would be nice to have a Supreme Court which ensures our law makers do not exceed their constitutional authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It would be nice to have a Supreme Court which ensures our law makers do not exceed their constitutional authority.
    They already have countless times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    They already have countless times!
    They need to continue that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Mitch will do whatever it takes to cement a conservative majority in the SCOTUS. They've been building for this for 50 years. He'll come up with some rationale for a last minute nomination were it to come to that.
    We elected him to do just that. And I think the Democrats need to stop the whining. McConnel will go down in history as will Susan Collins for finally stepping to the plate....and sending Lefty curve balls into the right field bleachers.

    No one at all discussed during this entire process why Republicans could seat Kavanaugh with a 50-48 vote with Pence right there in case of a tie. No one.

    The Democrats would have had every reason to filibuster this nominee and that might have worked, the problem.....the filibuster arrow was taken from their quiver. By Harry Reid and Chuck U Schumer. The Democrats filibustered Gorsuch! Playing the wrong hand and Republicans came right back with what is called the nuclear option and torched their filibuster putting Neil Gorsuch on the court. For this Kavanaugh fight.....as will be the case for any possible Clarence Thomas or RBG fight.....Republicans will need but 51 votes.

    Y'all fcked yourselves.....and now whine endlessly in defeat.

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