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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Anyone with half a brain knows that it is designed to discourage voter turnout by minorities!


    That is probably true. That would explain why you believe that. However, anyone with an entire brain knows you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    In order to vote, you must first be registered. People don't simply show up at the polls with an ID and say, "I want to vote". The ID in question is not for purposes of registration - it's to confirm and verify the identity of the individual who is already on the voter rolls as a resident and a legal voter. Showing proof of residency, including having an address, in order to register to vote makes sense and no one questions that. Requiring that there be an address on the ID that you're showing to confirm that yes, that's you on the voter rolls, does not make sense - unless you're picking and choosing types of ID in order to disenfranchise a certain demographic.
    Bull$#@!. You need to prove you are the John Smith in your precinct. How damn hard is that to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Why?
    Because voting is a right. If you make a condition you need to make it easy to get not harder. The old Jim Crow idea was you had to register in your precinct and at the county seat on the same day. In the old days hat was impossible for blacks. They didn't live in the county seat usually and had no way to do this.

    If you make voter id difficult to get it's old Jim crow again. That doesn't interest me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Because voting is a right. If you make a condition you need to make it easy to get not harder.

    Let's see what the Constitution actually says, not what people think it says or wish it says.

    Amendment XV - "Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

    I don't see the part saying the state has to provide you with ID free of charge.

    Amendment XIX - The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

    Still not seeing it.Amendment XXIV - "Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay poll tax or other tax.

    It is still not there, but maybe we're getting closer.Amendment XXVI - Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

    I am afraid that is all it says on the matter. I didn't see the "Gotta give them a free ID or a ride to the polls or provide multilingual ballots or any of that good stuff people keep trying to say the Constitution demands. I am really sick of the sense of entitlement people feel in this country. Voting is a responsibility. It is a duty. If you want to vote, you do what you need to do to vote. If that means you walk 10 miles in a damned hurricane to get to the polls, that is what you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Anyone with half a brain knows that it is designed to discourage voter turnout by minorities!

    This goes along with the massive voter roll purging and voter supression efforts by the GOP!
    Evidently those with only half a brain believe that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    How is a student ID be helpful to determine residency?...
    No serious person could think a student ID is a valid form of citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Anyone with half a brain knows that it is designed to discourage voter turnout by minorities!

    This goes along with the massive voter roll purging and voter supression efforts by the GOP!

    To believe that, one would need half a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    There’s no logical explanation as to why anyone would oppose voter ID laws.

    Except the history of "citizenship papers"

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Except the history of "citizenship papers"
    That is why we have courts that will review state ID to vote laws to ensure that they are constitutional. Many state laws have passed, such as Virginia's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Because voting is a right. If you make a condition you need to make it easy to get not harder. The old Jim Crow idea was you had to register in your precinct and at the county seat on the same day. In the old days hat was impossible for blacks. They didn't live in the county seat usually and had no way to do this.

    If you make voter id difficult to get it's old Jim crow again. That doesn't interest me.
    Lots of ways to vote. Absentee for one.
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