Oh, I wish I were a glow worm,
for a glow worm's never glum,
'cause how can you be grumpy
when the sun shines out your bum!
Many would consider me to be our most leftish forum member here, and I'm not a big fan of political correctness in the abstract myself. As you may have noticed.
I get tired of the Susan Collins's of the world lecturing about civility in the abstract while stoking the flames of division in practice with how they vote. As I pointed out in my own thread not long ago, I have received just about every label there is online at some point and it's annoying. I'm tired of being called a TERF, a SWERF, a racist (against my own ethnic group most often, no less!), a misandrist, a (yes, believe it or not) misogynist, a religious bigot, etc. etc. etc. I'm tired of lifelong feminist activists and academics being no-platformed and censored and threatened with violence for holding a critical view of gender identity and the transgender movement that I agree with. I also think both leftists and rightists have their own versions of political correctness and that the second group just lives in denial about it.
I also don't view political correctness as the biggest problem in the world at this time, in this context. I think things like rape culture are bigger problems. And I think that, in as far as incivility is a problem in American society right now, that clearly, in the main at least, comes from the top-down (i.e. Trump and goons), NOT anyone else that conservative activists would prefer to blame. For the most part, everyone else is just reacting to that source. Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Antifa, and feminist protesters dressed as handmaids are not the actual causes of this dilemma. The actual root cause is more obvious. So obvious that its army of adherents have to constantly point elsewhere; anywhere else, desperately.
Last edited by IMPress Polly; 10-12-2018 at 06:26 AM.
Standing Wolf (10-12-2018)
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
DGUtley (10-12-2018),silvereyes (10-13-2018)
Captdon (10-12-2018)
Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
Pick your enemies carefully.
Chris (10-12-2018)
Both points with which I totally agree. The question asked in the poll was whether the respondent considered PC culture to be "a problem". That a reported 97% of self-identified conservatives responded in the affirmative suggests that, in many cases, those people may simply be taking the "problem" far more seriously than they need to. Most of the examples cited by DGU, just like the great majority of those one hears about in the news, are things that almost everyone, regardless of political orientation or social class, hears about and laughs. I've been hearing references to the great "personhole covers" controversy since the '70s, and it's as much of a joke now as it was then. As for what happens on college campuses - many of the things we now hear about happening there, in terms of "PC culture", will eventually stop when enough moneyed alumni begin withholding their donations until the administrators come to their senses. On any rational list of "problems" faced by America and its citizens today, "PC culture" has to be way, way down there.
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
IMPress Polly (10-13-2018)
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Largely PC is a major issue in our universities. Much less of a problem in the real world.
ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Captdon (10-12-2018),IMPress Polly (10-13-2018),Standing Wolf (10-12-2018)
If I may say so without being accused of "making it personal", Chris, you seem to have, as here, a penchant for seeing contradictions where none exist. Yes, both left and right have their shibboleths and taboos - that's true. Some people take them way too seriously - also true. Where, exactly, is the contradiction?
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry