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Thread: What the media aren’t telling you about Jamal Khashoggi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    It was probably the Crown Prince that ordered it. He is making a lot of good changes in Saudi Arabia, like letting women drive and expanding the economy beyond oil. But he can't stand dissidents.

    So our buddies are all the way up to "letting women drive?" Wow. I never understood the knock on women drivers. They can drive just fine. Parking, now that's a different matter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    So our buddies are all the way up to "letting women drive?" Wow. I never understood the knock on women drivers. They can drive just fine. Parking, now that's a different matter!
    Women were not suppose to leave the home without a male relative escort either. The Crown Prince is making good changes. But not above murder it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Women were not suppose to leave the home without a male relative escort either. The Crown Prince is making good changes. But not above murder it seems.
    Not the kind of people we should of ever allied with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Not the kind of people we should of ever allied with.
    Before fracking we needed Middle Eastern oil, therefore the Middle East was of strategic interest to the US. Saudi Arabia had the most oil, therefore we picked them over Iran.
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    Saudi Arabia is arguably the biggest terrorist state in the world. The fact that we're allies with them and harass and threaten countries like Iran and Syria on the premise or morality and security tells you all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Before fracking we needed Middle Eastern oil, therefore the Middle East was of strategic interest to the US. Saudi Arabia had the most oil, therefore we picked them over Iran.
    Only because we allowed ourselves to become dependent upon that which we did not have. Piss poor progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Saudi Arabia is arguably the biggest terrorist state in the world. The fact that we're allies with them and harass and threaten countries like Iran and Syria on the premise or morality and security tells you all you need to know.
    Sunni extremism is a much greater threat to the west than Shia extremism. The Shia are a greater threat to Israel but outside of the Israeli issue, the Shia terror is more of a scalpel- more professional like spec ops and special action intel units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Saudi Arabia is arguably the biggest terrorist state in the world. The fact that we're allies with them and harass and threaten countries like Iran and Syria on the premise or morality and security tells you all you need to know.
    Actually it doesn't tell you all you need to know, but you're certainly free to continue thinking that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Sunni extremism is a much greater threat to the west than Shia extremism.
    Until Iran develops an atomic weapon, yes.

    The Shia are a greater threat to Israel but outside of the Israeli issue, the Shia terror is more of a scalpel- more professional like spec ops and special action intel units.
    But we must convince both Israel and the Arab, Turk, and Persian ruled worlds that the US will not hesitate to go to war with Israel if necessary, we must be capable of so much more than special ops/scalpel engagements. We must be able to move significant forces anywhere on the earth in mere days. We must be able to protect Israel much like we protect western Europe from Eastern threats and protect South Korea against China and North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Until Iran develops an atomic weapon, yes.
    State action is not terrorism. If Iran used a nuclear weapon it would be an act of war upon the target nation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    But we must convince both Israel and the Arab, Turk, and Persian ruled worlds that the US will not hesitate to go to war with Israel if necessary, we must be capable of so much more than special ops/scalpel engagements. We must be able to move significant forces anywhere on the earth in mere days. We must be able to protect Israel much like we protect western Europe from Eastern threats and protect South Korea against China and North Korea.
    Why? Israel is very capable.
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