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Thread: Barack Obama Destroyed The Democratic Party For A Generation

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    From the CDC

    Blacks/African Americansa account for a higher proportion of new HIV diagnoses, those living with HIV, and those who have ever received an AIDS diagnosis, compared to other races/ethnicities. In 2016, African Americans accounted for 44% of HIV diagnoses, though they comprise 12% of the U.S. population.

    I mean what could go wrong with bringing the epidemic over here?

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    Obama had so much charisma he lost the house in the biggest midterm landslide ever and continued to lose lose lose. He got himself re-elected. He got Trump elected. He lost 2 SCOTUS appointments he did such a great job. The under courts are being loaded up thanks to his charisma.

    You liberals might want want to wake up just a little.
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    This leftward lurch by the Democrat party has been going on for quite some time. Started with Woodrow Wilson and amplified by Franklin Roosevelt. It didn't really start to gain steam until George McGovern and LBJ. Now, with a near nonexistent Conservative Voice keeping the radicals on a tight leash, I'm afraid the Democrat party is basically insane. Hell, the ONLY Democrat I liked in my lifetime is my former mayor, James D. Griffin. Now, New York is on the precipice where the Democrat Party under Prince Andrew SonofaCuomo is poised to wield unilateral power in the state. And that will be the final death throes of New York State. Look at what it's doing to California.
    There are different strains of the left in America. The two main ones are what I call the left or hard left and the Bernie wing. These two groups do not get along, especially after Hillary and the DNC stabbed them in the back in the run-up to 2016. Obama is part of the left or hard left. They were the ones who turned away from the working class and focused on victim groups to secure the votes for a win. And ended up losing over 1000 elected positions at the local, state, and federal level. So far as political power goes, they have it on the left.

    The Bernie wing advocates for more socialist programs in our government. They want the us to be a serious social democratic society. I don't think that anyone is advocating for a pure socialist government, not even the Socialist Party of the US. See platform here. While the Socialist Party does call for the social ownership of productive resources, they are not calling for government (or social) ownership of all property (land and buildings). So even they have abandoned pure socialism. In my last tour in Iraq I was pure socialism. In Iraq all property was titled to the government (it made me wonder why they needed to keep title information if they all said the same thing with regards to ownership). It caused us a lot of problems with the locals as they tried to return to what they said was their homes. I am sure many were trying to claim up (a better home), but we had no way to know because nobody owned their land and homes under Saddam. I don't know whether we found documents that showed who rented the land / home. Such documents were not found when I was there. Perhaps the locals hid them from us- there were more homes available than people due to deaths and migration, and I expect most wanted to claim up.

    Currently the Bernie wing has little power, but that is changing. Younger generations of the left are drifting away from the hard left towards the Bernie wing. They will find out overtime that the Bernie platform is prohibitively inexpensive.

    I use the term hard left above to lament the purging of the Blue Dogs from the Democratic Party. They were reasonable people and had some good ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    lol...Tzarizm?

    A conservative blog based in Russia and run by an ex-Fox nobody that claims to be non-partisan but is anything but?

    Why not just quote RT? Or Trump's mistress?

    https://tsarizm.com/sections/opinion/
    I began the thread for discussion on how Obama was a disaster for your Party, Agent Zero. You don't agree I take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    All sides are corrupt run by the puppet masters. No lie...…….
    We are discussing Obama's legacy, JAP. Care to contribute on that, "all sides" includes yours, are corrupt.....was there anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvereyes View Post
    Obama has charisma.
    What happened to the Democrat Party's charisma after he was elected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    There are different strains of the left in America. The two main ones are what I call the left or hard left and the Bernie wing. These two groups do not get along, especially after Hillary and the DNC stabbed them in the back in the run-up to 2016. Obama is part of the left or hard left. They were the ones who turned away from the working class and focused on victim groups to secure the votes for a win. And ended up losing over 1000 elected positions at the local, state, and federal level. So far as political power goes, they have it on the left.

    The Bernie wing advocates for more socialist programs in our government. They want the us to be a serious social democratic society. I don't think that anyone is advocating for a pure socialist government, not even the Socialist Party of the US. See platform here. While the Socialist Party does call for the social ownership of productive resources, they are not calling for government (or social) ownership of all property (land and buildings). So even they have abandoned pure socialism. In my last tour in Iraq I was pure socialism. In Iraq all property was titled to the government (it made me wonder why they needed to keep title information if they all said the same thing with regards to ownership). It caused us a lot of problems with the locals as they tried to return to what they said was their homes. I am sure many were trying to claim up (a better home), but we had no way to know because nobody owned their land and homes under Saddam. I don't know whether we found documents that showed who rented the land / home. Such documents were not found when I was there. Perhaps the locals hid them from us- there were more homes available than people due to deaths and migration, and I expect most wanted to claim up.

    Currently the Bernie wing has little power, but that is changing. Younger generations of the left are drifting away from the hard left towards the Bernie wing. They will find out overtime that the Bernie platform is prohibitively inexpensive.

    I use the term hard left above to lament the purging of the Blue Dogs from the Democratic Party. They were reasonable people and had some good ideas.
    What happened to the moderates?
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texan View Post
    What happened to the moderates?
    The hard left ran them out of positions of power. As of 2017 only 14 remain in the Blue Dog coalition. The New Democrat Coalition took up their slack.
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    Oh no Obama missed his calling. He could have brought these over to the black communities for humanitarian reasons you know. Every time I hear these protestors yelling in the name of humanity, I think of what Obama did bringing in AIDs riddled people into these communities in the name of humanity.



    Democratic Republic of the Congo confirms 33 cases of Ebola in the past week alone, of whom 24 have died - Reuters

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    Quote Originally Posted by texan View Post
    Obama had so much charisma he lost the house in the biggest midterm landslide ever and continued to lose lose lose. He got himself re-elected. He got Trump elected. He lost 2 SCOTUS appointments he did such a great job. The under courts are being loaded up thanks to his charisma.

    You liberals might want want to wake up just a little.
    If if if if if if if if if if if ..... Come on now. That's a bunch of okey doke.

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