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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    this is a public political forum you do not have the privilege of choosing just specifically you want to talk to. If that is the case, take it to pm's where no one will inject themselves into your so-call private conversation.
    today's victim card:



    you still don't get it.........................you'll never get it
    We'll this affirmation didn't take long. LOL!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Sea lioning is a passive-aggressive trolling tactic commonly used online that you may have experienced before. (The term comes from a web comic strip involving a sea lion character who appears out of nowhere to persistently interrogate another character who was speaking to someone else with repeated "civil" requests for information.) It involves repeated, disingenuous requests for basic information offered under a pretense of civility that are intended to gradually wear down the other party until they become frustrated. Here's sort of how it typically works:


    YOU: I take position X.

    SEA LION: *randomly intervenes in conversation you were having with someone else* I would like to agree with you, but I don't know anything about this issue. Could you explain it to me, with sources, as apparently my fingers are broken and I cannot use Google to research basic information on my own?

    YOU: Here is some basic information on this subject explaining what is at issue and my position: *links it took you 30 minutes to round up*

    SEA LION: I don't accept your sources. What else do you have for me?

    YOU: Okay then, here is what my lived experienced around this issue has been. *spends another 20 minutes writing out an explanation*

    SEA LION: I don't accept your lived experience either. What else do you have for me?

    YOU: You know what, $#@! off! You're clearly just trying to get on my nerves.

    SEA LION: Hey, there's no call for yelling. Why are you so upset? I was just wanted to have a civil, reasonable conversation in good faith and be educated about this issue. You made a claim on the internet. Are you saying that you're unable to substantiate your opinion?


    I was recently dealing with one such person elsewhere. Do you ever encounter this kind of annoying behavior?
    You must have missed the thread where I was informed that there is no such thing as passive/aggressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    We'll this affirmation didn't take long. LOL!!!!!
    for what? The truth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Sea lioning is a passive-aggressive trolling tactic commonly used online that you may have experienced before. (The term comes from a web comic strip involving a sea lion character who appears out of nowhere to persistently interrogate another character who was speaking to someone else with repeated "civil" requests for information.) It involves repeated, disingenuous requests for basic information offered under a pretense of civility that are intended to gradually wear down the other party until they become frustrated. Here's sort of how it typically works:


    YOU: I take position X.

    SEA LION: *randomly intervenes in conversation you were having with someone else* I would like to agree with you, but I don't know anything about this issue. Could you explain it to me, with sources, as apparently my fingers are broken and I cannot use Google to research basic information on my own?

    YOU: Here is some basic information on this subject explaining what is at issue and my position: *links it took you 30 minutes to round up*

    SEA LION: I don't accept your sources. What else do you have for me?

    YOU: Okay then, here is what my lived experienced around this issue has been. *spends another 20 minutes writing out an explanation*

    SEA LION: I don't accept your lived experience either. What else do you have for me?

    YOU: You know what, $#@! off! You're clearly just trying to get on my nerves.

    SEA LION: Hey, there's no call for yelling. Why are you so upset? I was just wanted to have a civil, reasonable conversation in good faith and be educated about this issue. You made a claim on the internet. Are you saying that you're unable to substantiate your opinion?


    I was recently dealing with one such person elsewhere. Do you ever encounter this kind of annoying behavior?
    Hell-o IMpress Polly, could they have been the same person since the same type of thing happened before? (Because it is a 'known' from before). Their whole worry seems to be economic, but more than that even, how they feel the need to exert power and control over someone they have never even encountered anywhere except in a forum. It's the only place they can get away with it, because anywhere else, it wouldn't be happening. There is no equality with them, they are your higher power always, and you better never forget it either. You will always be deemed as a lesser denomination than they are, but who would wish to be like them even, or be present in their company anywhere? They can't even get along with themselves and expect you to. They are skilled in lies and willful misrepresentations, that's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    for what? The truth?
    No. The existence of sea lions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    No. The existence of sea lions.
    they are very fierce creatures....proud to be called one......can I get an "amen?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    they are very fierce creatures....proud to be called one......can I get an "amen?"
    Amen brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Sea lioning is a passive-aggressive trolling tactic commonly used online that you may have experienced before. (The term comes from a web comic strip involving a sea lion character who appears out of nowhere to persistently interrogate another character who was speaking to someone else with repeated "civil" requests for information.) It involves repeated, disingenuous requests for basic information offered under a pretense of civility that are intended to gradually wear down the other party until they become frustrated. Here's sort of how it typically works:


    YOU: I take position X.

    SEA LION: *randomly intervenes in conversation you were having with someone else* I would like to agree with you, but I don't know anything about this issue. Could you explain it to me, with sources, as apparently my fingers are broken and I cannot use Google to research basic information on my own?

    YOU: Here is some basic information on this subject explaining what is at issue and my position: *links it took you 30 minutes to round up*

    SEA LION: I don't accept your sources. What else do you have for me?

    YOU: Okay then, here is what my lived experienced around this issue has been. *spends another 20 minutes writing out an explanation*

    SEA LION: I don't accept your lived experience either. What else do you have for me?

    YOU: You know what, $#@! off! You're clearly just trying to get on my nerves.

    SEA LION: Hey, there's no call for yelling. Why are you so upset? I was just wanted to have a civil, reasonable conversation in good faith and be educated about this issue. You made a claim on the internet. Are you saying that you're unable to substantiate your opinion?


    I was recently dealing with one such person elsewhere. Do you ever encounter this kind of annoying behavior?
    Public forums are open to anyone. There are no private conversations.

    The rest is a good, simple definition of deflection. It's pretty common. "I'm losing so I need to deflect."

    I will take issue with the "source" statement. I doubt you would accept Fox News or Hannity as legitimate sources any mote than I accept CNN or MSNBC.

    Otherwise you're spot on. It's not rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    I just call them trolls. I noticed this tactic from the very beginnig. I didnt know it had a name though. But yeah pretty pathetic. I also call it Scientology like tactics. The scientologists use this when attacking others. It is a form of mental attack. The trolls use this tactic to wear you down so that you will leave the forum. If they do not agree with your views they do not want you there. Thank you for sharing that. People should know.

    You should also know that there are many organizations that are heavily funded by people like the Kochs and Soros, and they do pay people to post in forums. Of course they would like to change the political climate. They would like to bust a forum down to only have members of the side of their liking. Or views that line up with their beliefs. they understand the power of opinion and they know if they say something publicly online that others will think it is a real persons opinion, and then others are likely to adopt that opinion, and spread it in the real world. But many times these are not real persons opinions but the opinions of a corporation who is trying to change minds.

    Conspiracy, I don't think so.
    You didn't understand the OP. If everyone you disagreed with was run off, you'd have nothing to do.

    You say that the Koch brothers pay people to do this and then you say you don't think it's a conspiracy.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You didn't understand the OP. If everyone you disagreed with was run off, you'd have nothing to do.

    You say that the Koch brothers pay people to do this and then you say you don't think it's a conspiracy.
    I understood it well, and you are one of the biggest trolls on this forum! Call it what ever you want, but you are one of them. It is not a matter of someone just disagreeing, it is a matter of trolling they are two different things. Say what ever you want. You are the ones trying to push people out of the forum and make it an echo chamber. It didn't work did it!
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