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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Our national debt is atrocious. "Defense" spending is the largest cut of the pie. Most of which is not needed or at best grossly misallocated resources.
    Not even close. So-called mandatory spending, entitlement programs, account for way more than half of all spending. So-called discretionary spending continues to be a shrinking part of the budget. The military budget is the largest portion of the discretionary part of the budget.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Not even close. So-called mandatory spending, entitlement programs, account for way more than half of all spending. So-called discretionary spending continues to be a shrinking part of the budget. The military budget is the largest portion of the discretionary part of the budget.
    I just checked the charts, I was mistaken. Thank you for the correction.
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

    Ephesians 6:12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I recently read this article in Foreign Policy: Socialists and Libertarians Need an Alliance Against the Establishment:LINK



    The article argues in favor of an alliance between socialists and libertarians on foreign policy. Specifically, on reducing the extravagant spending on foreign militarism. This will allow socialists and libertarians more wiggle room to compromise on their domestic differences over economics. The massive savings from reducing "national security" spending will allow socialists to strengthen entitlement programs while allowing libertarians to pursue tax relief and deficit reduction. It's a win-win situation for both sides. The same logic would apply to spending on the US police state, specifically, the regressive drug war, which has cost taxpayers about $1 trillion in direct revenues, to say nothing of all the indirect costs that come with ruining millions of lives needlessly. I think this is a good, practical idea and the perfect example of a reasonable compromise between two sides that don't agree on everything.

    I've often thought an LP/Green alliance might work. The LP can be much more flexible at the state level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    America was capitalistic, we know how that went.

    I don't get the point of this also, what do voters think?

    Alliance?

    I still think at the end of the day the super wealthy and privileged will still be super wealthy and privileged, bombs will be made and there will be aggression.

    Alliances among thieves.
    Great!
    That makes you a LEFTIST!


    This is an epithany for you! Welcome to reality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    We have to make the connection between domestic and foreign policy more obvious.

    Specifically, we have to demonstrate how spending on foreign policy is detracting from domestic issues.

    Every dollar spent on maintaining a bloated and corrupt overseas empire is one less dollar we have to spend on things that matter most to Americans.

    Putting it in terms of pure dollars and cents is something that I believe will resonant with average Americans.
    I agree with you. But.....people don't concern them selves with foreign policy until their child comes home in a body bag!

    Lately, all we get is Trump rants, and the reaction to it, and the DIVISIVENESS that has split America.

    Vested interests are stirring the pot of narratives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Great!
    That makes you a LEFTIST!


    This is an epithany for you! Welcome to reality!
    *facepalm*
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

    Ephesians 6:12

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