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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Identity politics may be an element of Marxism, but not exclusively. For me, when the author makes such a leap, he is engaging in hyperbole. I don't know that it's advisable to use hyperbole when criticizing hyperbole. In the end, he ends up sounding as silly as the person he's criticizing.
    He's not saying it's an element of Marxism. These people would have been laughed out of the room by the Old left.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    That's because class analysis is just kind of silly in a society where everyone is encouraged to consume as much as possible and where virtually everyone has internalized consumerist and materialist ideals.
    And where that's working, I've, capitalism hasn't collapsed as predicted. Materialistically,
    but that's all individualism is about left or right. For better or worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Identity politics may be an element of Marxism, but not exclusively. For me, when the author makes such a leap, he is engaging in hyperbole. I don't know that it's advisable to use hyperbole when criticizing hyperbole. In the end, he ends up sounding as silly as the person he's criticizing.
    An element of the new left--neoMarxist Postmoderns.

    Yes, the alt-right engages in the same identy politics as the new left…makes you wonder.

    Not sure what sounding silly means, if anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    An element of the new left--neoMarxist Postmoderns.

    Yes, the alt-right engages in the same identy politics as the new left…makes you wonder.

    Not sure what sounding silly means, if anything.
    Its a Canadian Liberal phrase meaning "What I am going to say doesn't really mean anything but I think it will be a put down of anything I disagree with"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Another exposé on intellectual BS in academia and media.

    Marxists against wokeness
    I agree with the point about the movie guy, but your article is guilty of the same kinda thing, and you yourself are the local king of "intellectual BS" so I see this whole thing as an exercise in hypocrisy.
    People who think a movie about plastic dolls is trying to turn their kids gay or trans are now officially known as

    Barbie Q’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I agree with the point about the movie guy, but your article is guilty of the same kinda thing, and you yourself are the local king of "intellectual BS" so I see this whole thing as an exercise in hypocrisy.
    If only you could articulate what you mean by "guilty of the same kinda thing" instead stooping to insult.
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    I see it as an exercise in hypocrisy because that is exactly what it is.

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