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    Greece, Prostitution, and the Sad Consequences of Democratic Socialism

    We gave capitalism and socialism a whirl so let's give democratic socialism, or is it social democracy, a turn.

    Greece, Prostitution, and the Sad Consequences of Democratic Socialism

    ...Let’s consider the case of Greece. I’ve written many times about the debilitating impact of high tax rates and wasteful spending in that nation. It has the least economic freedom of all nations in Western Europe, so it’s no surprise that it is falling further behind.

    But sometimes a compelling example is the best way of helping people understand the harmful impact of big government. From The New York Times:
    We were on Filis Street — a warren of alleyways and dingy two-story houses — which has been home to Athenian brothels for most of the past century. The trade is more desperate now because of Greece’s lost decade since the 2008 financial crisis, which has left no profession unscathed. The collapsed economy and the arrival of tens of thousands of migrants have pushed even more women into prostitution — even as prices have fallen through the floor…“I had a flower shop for 18 years — and now I’m here out of necessity, not out of joy,” said Dimitra, a middle-aged woman who lost her shop in the crisis and now works as a madam…the number of prostitutes in the city had increased by 7 percent since 2012, yet prices have dropped drastically, both for women working on the streets and in brothels. “In 2012, it would require an average of 39 euros” for a client to hire a prostitute in a brothel, Mr. Lazos said, “while in 2017 just €17 — a 56 percent decrease.”

    The saddest part of the story is the commentary of the prostitutes:
    “I hate sex,” Elena said. “I like the money, not the job.” Anastasia…has worked as a prostitute since she was 14. She’s now 33, and says the work is harder than ever. “People don’t have money anymore,” she said… Monica, a 30-year-old Albanian prostitute…spends six to eight hours a day trying to entice clients, but most do not stay. “They don’t have money,” she said. “They haven’t had money for the past seven years.”… Many Greek men are simply too poor to pay anymore.

    I support legal prostitution, in part because the alternative of pushing these unfortunate women even further into the underground economy would be worse.

    But that doesn’t change the fact that these women don’t have good lives. And the misery of democratic socialism in Greece is making their lives even sadder.

    The bottom line is that I now have three awful anecdotes from Greece to help illustrate the wretched impact of big government. In addition to the price-cutting prostitutes we discussed today, let’s not forget that Greece subsidizes pedophiles and requires stool samples to set up online companies.

    Needless to say, I hope we never go that far in the wrong direction.

    The moral of the story is that socialism (however defined) has never worked in any form at any time in history.
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    It's no coincidence that Democrats want to force everyone into sexual slavery. They're all promiscuous as hell.

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    Your ignorance cup

    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    It's no coincidence that Democrats want to force everyone into sexual slavery. They're all promiscuous as hell.
    Runneth over, Idiot.
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    We gave capitalism and socialism a whirl so let's give democratic socialism, or is it social democracy, a turn.

    Greece, Prostitution, and the Sad Consequences of Democratic Socialism
    WTF!!! ? Democratic socialism? What the $#@! that guy drunk?

    Seriously, coming to this site is funny because of the hilarious news and how they distort reality.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    WTF!!! ? Democratic socialism? What the $#@! that guy drunk?

    Seriously, coming to this site is funny because of the hilarious news and how they distort reality.
    Actually he said socialism however you want to define it.

    Why are we ignoring this colossal socialist failure?
    As Greece collapses, the big loser is socialism
    Greece is confirming that Margaret Thatcher was right about socialist governments
    Greece Disaster Shows Unavoidable Consequences of Socialism
    Greece Illustrates 150 Years of Socialist Failure in Europe
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    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Couldn't be because the Greek self-employed and small business are big-time tax evaders, or that Greece has twice as many self-employed as the European average:
    https://www.dianeosis.org/en/2016/06...ion-in-greece/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33479946
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Greece

    Right, we wouldn't want them to escape a burdensome central government and be free, now, would we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Couldn't be because the Greek self-employed and small business are big-time tax evaders, or that Greece has twice as many self-employed as the European average:
    https://www.dianeosis.org/en/2016/06...ion-in-greece/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33479946
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Greece
    The higher the tax burden, the more tax evasion there will be. It's almost as if people feel entitled to keep their own money or something. If only they would realize, that money doesn't actually belong to them, but to the government. Then perhaps they would be more willing to part with it.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The higher the tax burden, the more tax evasion there will be. It's almost as if people feel entitled to keep their own money or something. If only they would realize, that money doesn't actually belong to them, but to the government. Then perhaps they would be more willing to part with it.
    It wouldn't be a problem if the Greeks didn't also feel that they should be heavily subsidized. It's the combination that's bad.
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    Ok, biased sources that don't grasp the situation. I remember you that the government in Greece was conservative, also Greece had to take measures that went against Greek interests when the Troika forced them to reduce socail inversions, affecting negatively to the society. But, yeah, that was fault of socialism. Reductionism at max, mainly becaue Greece has never been socialist at all.

    And it is very funny to read the mises article. 150 years of failure xD HAHAHAA. What a $#@!ing nonsense, just the title is blatantly stupid and wrong.

    I remind you that Greece has not have had a socialist government in its history. And their last government was conservative, and then a government that tried to apply some socialist policies but ended applying more conservative and liberal policies, rather socialist. So, was the fault of socialism? Really? No, it was not.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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