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    The debate about our military and how its used has been raging long before anyone on this forum was even born.

    WW1 120,000 soldiers died, we entered the war very late near the end

    WW2 420,000, american soldiers, 60,000,000 people died in ww2 total

    Korea 40,000

    Vietnam, 58,196

    iraq/afghanistan both combined 6,800

    Doesnt count actions like Somalia and the iran hostage situation etc just wars and actions.

    The USA has been doing this along time and under democrats and republicans.

    Iraq/afghanistan has been going on since right after 911, Sixteen years of Bush/Obama and 2 yrs of Trump
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    Many of those who support survival of the fittest would be crying and pleading for mercy in an actual society of pure survival of the fittest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Yup, but nobody cares what's Constitutional anymore
    This is the root of tyranny.

    so it's good to see that you do.
    I cannot save the nation on my own.

    However, Constitutional or not taxes are still "taken at knifepoint" for whatever purpose.
    Taxes to fulfill Constitutional obligations are legitimate. Taxes taken to do unconstitutional things are illegitimate.


    But yes human services programs should be handled at the state level where the state has every Constitutional right to tax you and feed "John Doe" ( unless specifically prohibited in that state's constitution)
    Importantly, we can influence State laws. We cannot influence Federal laws and regulations. Further, if I don't like what my state is doing and cannot influence the laws I can easily move to another state. It is much harder to move to another nation.

    and a "Common DEFENSE" is a federal responsibility because it was not and is not practical for the states to deal separately with other countries.
    In fact most if not all of the enumerated powers are default duties which the states reluctantly granted the feds for practical reasons.
    Perhaps you and I have a few things in common after all? However, I believe most fiscal cons at the federal level automatically paint the states with the same brush. This is the weakness of the LP, they do not have a different and dynamic platform at the state level.
    Do you see how easy it is to know what is true after reading and understanding the Constitution?
    Last edited by MisterVeritis; 12-01-2018 at 01:22 PM.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Based upon the thread tittle I wanted to see what people knew about "survival of the fittest"

    So what makes up "survival of the fittest"
    1) Strongest?
    2) Biggest?
    3) Fastest?
    4) Toughest?
    5) Your own answer.
    The organism that best fits its circumstances has a slightly improved chance of reproducing relative to organisms less fitted.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I have read the Constitution but it says "Common Defense" not " become the modern day Roman Empire, minus the perks"

    As for running for office above the local level. Why didn't I think of that. I completely forgot that most congressman were single shop dry cleaners kids. Silly me!
    Because you have all the answers you should run for federal office. After all, you believe a common defense does not include offensive abilities, don't you?

    Obama proved anyone can grow up to become the President.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    There is nothing in the constitution that supports taxation for purely offensive military endeavors. That is playing just as fast and loose with the constitution as the left does with the general welfare clause. Also, the war powers act is a direct violation of the constitution and the government cannot wage war without congressional approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Many of those who support survival of the fittest would be crying and pleading for mercy in an actual society of pure survival of the fittest.
    We do exist in a pure survival of the fittest. That is why some welfare daddies have dozens of illegitimate offspring where I have just two legitimate children.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    There is nothing in the constitution that supports taxation for purely offensive military endeavors. That is playing just as fast and loose with the constitution as the left does with the general welfare clause. Also, the war powers act is a direct violation of the constitution and the government cannot wage war without congressional approval.
    Providing for the common defense is a term of art. It includes all forms of warfare.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is the root of tyranny.


    I cannot save the nation on my own.


    Taxes to fulfill Constitutional obligations are legitimate. Taxes take to do unconstitutional things are illegitimate.



    Importantly, we can influence State laws. We cannot influence Federal laws and regulations. Further, if I don't like what my state is doing and cannot influence the laws I can easily move to another state. It is much harder to move to another nation.


    Do you see how easy it is to know what is true after reading and understanding the Constitution?
    1) You cannot save anything without compassion, which is where state run ( vetted) social programs come in.
    2) States have the right to tax you for things the feds don't have such a right to tax you for.
    3) I've understood the Constitution and how it has been bypassed for a long time.
    3) What are we arguing about.
    4) How do we fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Providing for the common defense is a term of art. It includes all forms of warfare.


    I thought you knew the Constitution? They didn't mess around, they said what they meant and they meant defense just like they meant "shall not be infringed" They had to say what they meant the entire document is shorter than some of today's individual bills!
    Can you find a founder's quote describing "common defense" as a " loophole to commit the type of tyranny we had just escaped? I'll wait. I've asked gun control freaks the same question and they have never been able to find a quote to back the "militia only " bull$#@!. They have never responded with on

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