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    It's ANT to me...
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    For some reason, when people say, 'perticipate,' instead of, 'participate,' something just goes all through me....I just want to scream..." They're called PARticipants, not, PERticipans."


    When a person asks another person, " where do you live at," I also want to scream...."you don't need to add the, 'at!'

    Now, I don't always use the proper terms/words but, it isn't because I don't know any better, it's because I get lazy....most people today, plain don't know any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    It's ANT to me...
    Lol - two peoples divided by a common language!

    When Americans speak of visiting their 'ants', the first thought I get, is that they have taken up arthropodology as a hobby.

    The letter 'u' properly has an influence upon how words are pronounced - but this is often ignored in dialectical forms of the language. In Australia, for example, the word auction is commonly pronounced as though it were spelt 'ocktion'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Lol - two peoples divided by a common language!

    When Americans speak of visiting their 'ants', the first thought I get, is that they have taken up arthropodology as a hobby.

    The letter 'u' properly has an influence upon how words are pronounced - but this is often ignored in dialectical forms of the language. In Australia, for example, the word auction is commonly pronounced as though it were spelt 'ocktion'.
    How do you pronounce auction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Lol - two peoples divided by a common language!

    When Americans speak of visiting their 'ants', the first thought I get, is that they have taken up arthropodology as a hobby.

    The letter 'u' properly has an influence upon how words are pronounced - but this is often ignored in dialectical forms of the language. In Australia, for example, the word auction is commonly pronounced as though it were spelt 'ocktion'.
    Many words in the English language are pronounced very differently from the way they're spelled. (The word "queue" comes to mind. Not sure exactly how one would pronounce it if we were holding spoken English to that standard, but we certainly wouldn't be saying "kyu".) Most of us are used to hearing the language spoken a certain way all of our lives and divergences from that may sound odd to us - whether we're American, Canadian, British, Australian or what-have-you. Personally, I have the greatest difficulty understanding some Scots, and I refuse to believe that the way they pronounce words in general bears any relation to the way they're spelled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Many words in the English language are pronounced very differently from the way they're spelled. (The word "queue" comes to mind. Not sure exactly how one would pronounce it if we were holding spoken English to that standard, but we certainly wouldn't be saying "kyu".) Most of us are used to hearing the language spoken a certain way all of our lives and divergences from that may sound odd to us - whether we're American, Canadian, British, Australian or what-have-you. Personally, I have the greatest difficulty understanding some Scots, and I refuse to believe that the way they pronounce words in general bears any relation to the way they're spelled.
    Some programs use subtitles when interviewing Scots. I find it helpful myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    How do you pronounce auction?
    Very difficult to explain to someone used to American English. AFIK, the letter 'A' is pronounced totally differently in the UK, and in most of Europe, from the USA. If you go to this site, you will see the differences in the national pronunciation of 'auction'.

    https://forvo.com/word/auction/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Many words in the English language are pronounced very differently from the way they're spelled. (The word "queue" comes to mind. Not sure exactly how one would pronounce it if we were holding spoken English to that standard, but we certainly wouldn't be saying "kyu".) Most of us are used to hearing the language spoken a certain way all of our lives and divergences from that may sound odd to us - whether we're American, Canadian, British, Australian or what-have-you. Personally, I have the greatest difficulty understanding some Scots, and I refuse to believe that the way they pronounce words in general bears any relation to the way they're spelled.
    I'm glad you said some Scots - Glaswegian English is a foreign language to most other English speakers, but my grandparents come from Edinburgh, and I think Edinburgh English is the nicest accent on the British Isles. Australians can't make up their minds how they want to pronounce stuff. Uneducated Australians tend to pick up American pronunciations from the telly, and as Australia is the most multicultural society on earth, there are lots of foreign influences on the way Australians speak. AFIK, there are three main Australian accents - broad (uneducated) Australian, educated Australian (more common in people who hold a degree, or a professional qualification,) and cultured Australian (people who stick to Received Pronunciation as it is used in the UK). You can sometimes tell an Australian's background and level of education from the way he/she speaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Very difficult to explain to someone used to American English. AFIK, the letter 'A' is pronounced totally differently in the UK, and in most of Europe, from the USA. If you go to this site, you will see the differences in the national pronunciation of 'auction'.

    https://forvo.com/word/auction/
    TBH, the UK is the actual source of many of the varied pronunciations of vowels. Since much of America, Canada and Australia were settled by various citizens of the UK, including England, Wales, Ireland and Scotland, elements of those varied ways of pronouncing words have been combined in rather interesting ways. The English habit of dropping the letter 'r' is reflected in the speech patterns in the American North East and in the American South and in Australia. Elsewhere, the letter 'r' is hard owing to a larger number of Irish, Scots and Welsh. The Brits pronounce 'au' with a long 'o' similar to the sound in the word 'folk', while other English speakers pronounce it as one would 'aw'. That is probably because many pronunciations of vowel combinations in England are derivative of French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post


    The Brits pronounce 'au' with a long 'o' similar to the sound in the word 'folk', while other English speakers pronounce it as one would 'aw'. That is probably because many pronunciations of vowel combinations in England are derivative of French.
    Yah, the Roman Empire was also up & about in what is now UK, up to Hadrian's Wall. Latin was the educated language (along with Greek - although apparently the Greeks were the ones holding the intellectual inheritance together), & then French. Latin was the base for a lot of the national languages throughout Central & Western Europe.

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