Canadian feds bypass Ontario governement to distribute federal money.

[Lummy]

Ironically, many blue states are subsidizing red states...then they complain about welfare, when in fact they are collecting welfare themselves.

Say the government subsidizes some part of the ag industry and say, 6 companies to the tune of $1 billion. Those subidized entities then produce and sell $15 billion in goods, services and produce, which is taxed $2 billion.

I don't know what the figures are, but you see what I'm saying. In other words, it looks like California is shelling out a bundle of money more than federal dollars they're taking in, but it comes from and owes to that original federal money, and wouldn't otherwise be possible.

[Adelaide]

Something we will see soon if we keep voting "A" or "B" otherwise known as "The grow the government express.
I believe that states rights are partly born of common sense and therefore the provinces should be involved. However, I don't know whether Ontario has any legal grounds to challenge in Canada. My guess is no.

It is a different political system and different Constitution (specifically sections 91 and 92). No, Ontario can't challenge it. Yes, they can be fined.

Ford is a joke.

[Lummy]

It is a different political system and different Constitution (specifically sections 91 and 92). No, Ontario can't challenge it. Yes, they can be fined.

Ford is a joke.

Don't you think it would be in everyone's best interest if Ontario seceded from Canada and joined the US?

[Adelaide]

Don't you think it would be in everyone's best interest if Ontario seceded from Canada and joined the US?

No.

[Lummy]

No.

Why not? Our tax revenues increase a lot and their taxes still go down. It's a win-win.

[Adelaide]

Why not? Our tax revenues increase a lot and their taxes still go down. It's a win-win.

Not really. We get what we pay for, which makes up for the fact we pay slightly more in taxes (using OECD numbers). There is also an entirely different culture on some very important issues (guns, health care, federalism, multiculturalism, etc.).

[Lummy]

And so ... you think all of that should be studied first for oh say, the next 75 years or so, so we do anything brash?




(They already love us. )

[donttread]

It is a different political system and different Constitution (specifically sections 91 and 92). No, Ontario can't challenge it. Yes, they can be fined.

Ford is a joke.

Despite the federal government's right to do this is it more typical for them to work with the province? Here the federal government has been encroaching into clearly defined state's rights for a century or more.