NRA now attacking Doctors

[Standing Wolf]

Issued leftist talking points are never "obvious facts" to any normal, thinking person. Mocking the faithful is what libs do. You must be so proud.

I find that the people who most consistently meet an opinion with which they don't agree with a generalization or stereotype - "Libs always do this" or "Right-wingers always do that" - are the ones least likely to be able to actually formulate and express an appropriate, intelligent response.

We all sometimes get to the point in a discussion where frustration may cause us to respond in that way - eventually. I know that I've sometimes generalized about Trump supporters in a less than fair or thoughtful way, for example. However, such generalizations should not be the very first thing one comes back with...nor should they be overly broad.

It probably has something to do with the fact that I honestly and sincerely hold views that are most commonly seen on both sides of the Great Divide, but to me the idea that "all conservatives" or "all liberals" do anything is ludicrous on its face. I see it as shorthand for "I can't think of a good response, so I'll just throw some poop on it".

[Common]

In all threads about guns, theres always lots and lots of experts. I would like to know how many of you have ever seen a shooting or saw a person brandishing a gun in real life, not on tv or youtube.

Any discussion on guns or shootings is mostly two things, speculation and opinion. There are very few who have experienced it in real life, saw it on a fairly regular basis and actually know something about it upfront and personal and first hand.

Most shootings are for Love, Money or revenge, others are self defense and nutcases that mass shoot people

You will never change murder for Love, Money or Revenge because they will ALWAYS be with us and an issue. Self defense speaks for it self. Mass shooters are whatever you want to call them, mentally ill, unstable, emotionally distraught, or nuts. You arent going to stop that.

Gun Control is meaningless, the bad guys will always get guns, when you restrict gun sales, there will be unscrupulous people right there to fill the need. Just like Prohibition or Marihuana, YOU CANT STOP IT, you will only make the illegal gun trade thrive again.

We cant stop mothers carrying babies across our border, we cant stop TONS of weed and cocaine coming across the border.

Somehow democrat and liberal Politicians want us to believe they are going to control guns, They cant even control antifaa

[DGUtley]

Yada yada ... The medical profession's SOP is to research causation and cure.

Unfortunately, "mental illness" is not so simple a study or diagnosis to make as, say, the flu, a broken leg, diabetes or even dementia. Unless the person complains of a problem, their mental state isn't much more than personal opinion, a judgement call that can be agenda imbued.
In the case of our beloved lunatic liberal democrats, who are all sick in the head, it is almost entirely politically colored and probably motivated.

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[donttread]

And yet they get guns quite readily. Why do you suppose that is? Apart from the brisk trade in illegal firearms that is the natural consequence of a massive firearms industry in America, there is also the fact that most people don't do much to secure their weapons from theft. Then there is the virtually unregulated aspect of private gun sales which is even more prolific now with the internet. The fact that most mentally ill people are undiagnosed because it's the most underfunded aspect of the health care system is also contributing to the death toll.

Anyway, it is what it is. People will get shot and doctors will continue to wonder why this kind of carnage is OK.

These incidents are great for gun grabbers agenda but the truth is that the average shooting is one felon shooting another felon with a gun he cannot possess under current law. In other words gun laws don't work. Drug laws don't work. Exotic pet laws don't work. Even immigration laws don't work. We are a free society not well equipped to control the flow of goods or even people .

[donttread]

Today


After California Shooting, Doctors Hit Back at NRA for Trying to Silence Them Over Guns


https://www.thedailybeast.com/doctor...them-over-guns

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...30.DAUluUGqd1Y

Doctors share gun stories, demand action after NRA tells them to ‘stay in their lane’


On Wednesday, the NRA mocked ‘anti-gun’ doctors for advocating for gun violence research. After Thursday’s Thousand Oaks mass shooting, doctors fought back.


Two signs of the times: another mass shooting and more Twitter outrage.

This time, though, the barbs over social media came from the medical community in response to a tweet from the National Rifle Association.




The piling-on began after the NRA tweeted on Wednesday a link to an article from its Institute of Legislative Action.

The article, titled “Surprise: Physician Group Rehashes Same Tired Gun Control Policies,” was promoted with these words: “Someone should tell self-important anti-gun doctors to stay in their lane.

Half of the articles in Annals of Internal Medicine are pushing for gun control.

Most upsetting, however, the medical community seems to have consulted NO ONE but themselves.”



The tweet went out hours before a gunman walked into the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks, California, and killed at least 12 people before turning his gun on himself.

The NRA’s tweet had more than 1,300 likes by mid-Thursday.

But it also riled up people inside and outside the medical field, who replied by the thousands.

I really think these social media post should be reviewed for possible HIPPA violations and if any are found reported to the regulatory agencies.

[Dr. Who]

These incidents are great for gun grabbers agenda but the truth is that the average shooting is one felon shooting another felon with a gun he cannot possess under current law. In other words gun laws don't work. Drug laws don't work. Exotic pet laws don't work. Even immigration laws don't work. We are a free society not well equipped to control the flow of goods or even people .

I have no doubt that gun laws per se won't work. Violence in society is a mindset. Not valuing people who are not among your friends, family and general tribe is also a mindset. How society treats people is a reflection of that mindset. An angry, suspicious society that devalues people while exalting money will have trouble with lethal violence. Guns just make the death toll greater. They aren't the problem, but a significant symptom of the problem.

[Hoosier8]

Made me laugh.

Ann Coulter
✔ @AnnCoulter




Emergency room doctors pull cue balls, vines & gummy bears out of human orifices every week. That doesn't make them experts on pool, horticulture or chewy candy.
Judy Melinek M.D.
✔ @drjudymelinek


Do you have any idea how many bullets I pull out of corpses weekly? This isn’t just my lane. It’s my $#@!ing highway. https://twitter.com/drjudymelinek/st...94812872007680 …

[exotix]

Made me laugh.

Ann Coulter
✔ @AnnCoulter




Emergency room doctors pull cue balls, vines & gummy bears out of human orifices every week. That doesn't make them experts on pool, horticulture or chewy candy.
Judy Melinek M.D.
✔ @drjudymelinek


Do you have any idea how many bullets I pull out of corpses weekly? This isn’t just my lane. It’s my $#@!ing highway. https://twitter.com/drjudymelinek/st...94812872007680 …

[Hoosier8]

The lefts answer to common sense. Hate.

[Peter1469]

Doesn't seem like anyone has a good answer. The NRA certainly doesn't. Physicians looking for a case doesn't seem like a bad idea since there seem to be common themes. I have read my share of articles about gun violence for university and gun control is rarely what is proposed as a solution; usually demographics and socioeconomic status, as well as psychological factors, are the common themes.

I don't have a problem with doctors reminding their patients, especially those with kids, to be safe with guns. They shouldn't preach or provide misinformed opinions. And you can always say, thanks, I don't own fire arms.