Government spending

[countryboy]

By that definition all political beliefs, ideologies, and parties are insane since they all have beliefs that repeat each other over the years

No, simply repeating doesn't suggest insanity, expecting a different result however, does.

[zelmo1234]

Just because someone has a different view on how something should be run doesn't mean that they have some sort of mental disorder.

The problem is that reality does not suffer Fools (no saying that you are one) But if printing money and over spending, so you debt becomes uncontrolable, and it brings down governments like Ancient Greese, The Roman Empire, 1939 Germany, 1988 USSR, 1990's Japan, 2010 Greece, Spain, and Itally, it will do it here too. To think well we are different is foolish.

It is the same with raising taxes, it is designed to increase revenue, but rarly does, unless you raise it on the middle class like they just did, because the poor, and middle class can not excape these taxes, the wealthy can. But when you cut taxes on the job creators, revenue goes up because the rich invest and grow. But we just spent 8 years the last 4 of Bush and the first 4 of Obama putting out tax policy that lasts one or two years, and then blame Business because they do not invest.

In my business we have 1 - 3 - 5 year plan The 5 year is refined into a 3year and then refined into the one your plan. When Tax code changed from year to year, and they keep pushing these deadlinse you can not plan for anything. So that is why business is sitting on a trillion, but those in washington that lean toward the liberal side of things still want to tax and spend. So we are stuck in stall.

So everyone suffers and the revenue needed to get the debt under control is gone because there is no growth.

[waltky]

Sticking points crop up in $1.3 Trillion Spending Bill Talks...

Congress Reaches Sticky Points in $1.3 Trillion Spending Bill Talks
March 17, 2018 | WASHINGTON — Top-level congressional talks on a $1.3 trillion catchall spending bill are reaching a critical stage as negotiators confront immigration, abortion-related issues and a battle over a massive rail project that pits President Donald Trump against his most powerful Democratic adversary.

The bipartisan measure is loaded with political and policy victories for both sides. Republicans and Trump are winning a long-sought budget increase for the Pentagon while Democrats obtain funding for infrastructure, the opioid crisis and a wide swath of domestic programs. The bill would implement last month’s big budget agreement, providing 10 percent increases for both the Pentagon and domestic agencies when compared with current levels. Coupled with last year’s tax cut measure, it heralds the return of trillion-dollar budget deficits as soon as the budget year starting in October.


Sorting out 'riders'


While most of the funding issues in the enormous measure have been sorted out, fights involving a number of policy “riders” — so named because they catch a ride on a difficult-to-stop spending bill — continued into the weekend. Among them are GOP-led efforts to add a plan to revive federal subsidies to help the poor cover out-of-pocket costs under President Barack Obama’s health law and to fix a glitch in the recent tax bill that subsidizes grain sales to cooperatives at the expense of for-profit grain companies. Trump has privately hreatened to veto the whole package if a $900 million payment is made on the Hudson River Gateway Project, a priority of top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York. Trump’s opposition is alarming northeastern Republicans such as Gateway supporter Peter King, R-N.Y., who lobbied Trump on the project at a St. Patrick’s luncheon in the Capitol on Thursday.

The Capitol Dome of the Capitol Building at sunrise, Feb. 9, 2018, in Washington. Congressional negotiators have reached the critical stage in talks to shape a $1.3 trillion spending bill.

The Gateway Project would add an $11 billion rail tunnel under the Hudson River to complement deteriorating, century-old tunnels that are at risk of closing in a few years. It enjoys bipartisan support among key Appropriations panel negotiators on the omnibus measure who want to get the expensive project on track while their coffers are flush with money. Most House Republicans voted to kill the funding in a tally last year, however, preferring to see the money spread to a greater number of districts. “Obviously, if we’re doing a huge earmark ... it’s troubling,” said Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., a leader of House conservatives. “Why would we do that? Schumer’s pet project and we pass that under a Republican-controlled Senate, House and White House?” Schumer has kept a low profile, avoiding stoking a battle with the unpredictable Trump.


Border wall


There’s also a continuing battle over Trump’s long-promised U.S.-Mexico border wall. While Trump traveled to California on Tuesday to inspect prototypes for the wall, what’s pending now is $1.6 billion for earlier designs involving sections in Texas that double as levees and 14 miles (23 kilometers) of replacement fencing in San Diego. It appears Democrats may be willing to accept wall funding, but they are battling hard against Trump’s demands for big increases for immigration agents and detention beds they fear would enable wide-scale roundups of immigrants illegally living in the U.S. Meanwhile, a White House trial balloon to trade additional years of wall funding for a temporary reprieve for immigrants brought to the country illegally as children — commonly called “Dreamers” — landed with a thud last week.


Abortion, Planned Parenthood

[pragmatic]

Just because someone has a different view on how something should be run doesn't mean that they have some sort of mental disorder.

Agree.

The members of both parties have a single driving force: Getting re-elected.


The Federal budget mess has little to do with party affiliation. It's much more about bringing home that bacon.

[MisterVeritis]

Agree.

The members of both parties have a single driving force: Getting re-elected.


The Federal budget mess has little to do with party affiliation. It's much more about bringing home that bacon.

With such massive, uncalled for spending I see no reason to vote.

[Tahuyaman]

By that definition all political beliefs, ideologies, and parties are insane since they all have beliefs that repeat each other over the years

No they don't. At least not all if them.