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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I always heard that ignorance of the law was no excuse...I guess this judge wants to change that.

    That's not what he said. Read it again.

    Heres what he said about that.....“You still have to show knowledge of the agencies and what they do. How do you do that?” Friedrich asked.

    Nothing about ignorance of the law.
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    The left cannot grasp that the Grand Buffoon is not the prosecutorial wunderkind that they keep deluding he is...AND HIS RECORD SHOWS THAT.
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    Haven't many been saying all along that Russia interference has centered on confusing the American electorate? Where is the "collusion?"
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    The only people messing with our elections are liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I always heard that ignorance of the law was no excuse...I guess this judge wants to change that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    That's not what he said. Read it again.

    Heres what he said about that.....“You still have to show knowledge of the agencies and what they do. How do you do that?” Friedrich asked.

    Nothing about ignorance of the law.
    By the way, do you still think that this ruling was based on “ ignorance of the law”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    The charges were made thinking they would never see a judge, the company proved that to be wrong. I see it being thrown out.
    It is obvious that the Witch Hunt never expected to be forced to go to court on these " window dressing" indictments, which are nothing more than Mueller's lameass attempt to justify his existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    More possible pettifoggery from the Grand Buffoon's Witch Hunt....which may well be in serious trouble prosecuting the Russian group...


    DC Judge Tees Up Proof Questions in Mueller's Russian Troll Farm Case

    A federal judge in Washington raised questions Monday about how prosecutors working with Special Counsel Robert Mueller III will be able to prove a key element of their case over Russian interference in the 2016 election: the alleged intent of 13 Russian nationals and three Moscow-linked firms to evade U.S. authorities tasked with rooting out foreign participation in the American political process.

    U.S. District Judge Dabney Friedrich, confirmed in November 2017 to Washington’s federal district court, said it was “hard to see” how the alleged Russian influence campaign was intended to interfere with the operations of the U.S. government rather than simply “confusing voters.”


    During a 90-minute hearing, Friedrich questioned prosecutor Jonathan Kravis about how the government would be able to show the Russian defendants were aware of the Justice Department and FEC’s functions and then deliberately sought to skirt them.

    “You still have to show knowledge of the agencies and what they do. How do you do that?” Friedrich asked.

    Kravis, a prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, argued that the government needed only to show that Concord Management and the other defendants were generally aware that the U.S. government “regulates and monitors” foreign participation in American politics. That awareness, Kravis said, could be inferred from the Russians’ alleged creation of fake social media accounts that appeared to be run by U.S. citizens and “computer infrastructure” intended to mask the Russian origin of the influence operation.

    Concord Management pleaded not guilty in May. Reed Smith partner Eric Dubelier, who has described the election interference charge as “make believe,” pressed his argument Monday that the indictment against Concord Management and the other Russian defendants “doesn’t charge a crime.”

    “There is no statute of interfering with an election. There just isn’t,” he said.


    Later, he said the special counsel’s office alleged a “made-up crime to fit the facts they have.” Under the theory of government’s case, he said, “everybody, even Americans” who pretend to be someone else on the internet could be prosecuted.
    “This argument is beyond belief,” Dubelier said
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    At multiple times during Monday’s hearing, Dubelier drew a distinction between the special counsel’s office and the U.S. Department of Justice, which he referred to repeatedly as the “real Justice Department.” He said the case underscored the issues of creating an office such as the special counsel’s that is “inconsistent with the consistent behavior of the Department of Justice for the past 30 years.




    https://www.law.com/nationallawjourn...20181012194213
    Pretty slick there, Grok. Since probably none of us subscribe to your link source, it was easy for you to leave out of the last line of that article:

    Judge Friedrich has not ruled on the motion to dismiss. She has sided with Mr. Mueller on other issues such as restricting the sharing of prosecution evidence with Russian defendants to ensure the information doesn’t end up with the Kremlin.
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    One more question...why is this in Latest Happenings when the judge's (misinterpreted) comments were made a month ago? You guys running out of ammo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    One more question...why is this in Latest Happenings when the judge's (misinterpreted) comments were made a month ago? You guys running out of ammo?
    I you can’t handle the discussion, just go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I you can’t handle the discussion, just go.
    Don't wet your panties, snowflake, I already know why...
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