Would God Lie?

[Captdon]

Are Jews destined for an eternity of hell if Christ is really the son of God?

Or are Christians bound to the same fate if he really isn't?

Some believe that Jews are destined for Hell by not accepting Christ. I can't picture God sending His Chosen People to Hell. Ill get a fuss from Baptists on this one.

If there is no God then who knows what happen if you believe.

[Captdon]

Just chatting over the fence.

I didn't mean that the way it came out. I seriously wanted to know what the problem is. I don't preach but I will answer the best I can.

[Standing Wolf]

Each avers their God is the Supreme Being.

How is this possible?

Ever hear the parable of the three blind men and the elephant?

A group of blind men heard that a strange animal, called an elephant, had been brought to the town, but none of them were aware of its shape and form. Out of curiosity, they said: "We must inspect and know it by touch, of which we are capable". So, they sought it out, and when they found it they groped about it.

In the case of the first person, whose hand landed on the trunk, said "This being is like a thick snake". For another one whose hand reached its ear, it seemed like a kind of fan. As for another person, whose hand was upon its leg, said, the elephant is a pillar like a tree-trunk. The blind man who placed his hand upon its side said, "elephant is a wall". Another who felt its tail, described it as a rope. The last felt its tusk, stating the elephant is that which is hard, smooth and like a spear.

If you think about it, the idea of human beings having the intellectual wherewithal to comprehend and describe the nature of a timeless, omniscient, supernatural being is pretty ludicrous.

[Captain Obvious]

Ever hear the parable of the three blind men and the elephant?



If you think about it, the idea of human beings having the intellectual wherewithal to comprehend and describe the nature of a timeless, omniscient, supernatural being is pretty ludicrous.

Unless the concept of God is a human construct.

The story was nice but kind of simplistic. People aren't blind and they think a lot deeper than that.

I remember thinking far beyond that when I was a kid and I'm not the most philosophical person on this planet so I'm pretty sure that at least it's not that simple.

And look at what we know now without the help of "God".

[valley ranch]

The people who today are called jews are not the Hebrew of the Old Testament and do not practice the religion of the Hebrew```

[valley ranch]

Human did not create God ~ God Created human ~ there are several descriptions of God ~ the one He gave us is Correct ```

[valley ranch]

[midcan5]

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." Marcus Aurelius

"The real question of life after death isn't whether or not it exists, but even if it does what problem this really solves." Ludwig Wittgenstein

"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?" Mark Twain

"Everyone starts out being an atheist. No one is born with belief in anything. Infants are atheists until they are indoctrinated." Andy Rooney

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" Epicurus

[Standing Wolf]

Unless the concept of God is a human construct.

The story was nice but kind of simplistic. People aren't blind and they think a lot deeper than that.

I remember thinking far beyond that when I was a kid and I'm not the most philosophical person on this planet so I'm pretty sure that at least it's not that simple.

And look at what we know now without the help of "God".

I think that God as human construct is pretty much the point of the story, C.O. Every society describes and worships the god that they "need", the god that fits in best with their dominant culture, and - most pertinent here - the god that they are, to some extent, capable of understanding. You say that people "aren't blind and think a lot deeper than that". Compared with what? Assume for a minute that an intelligent, omniscient and eternal being does exist; what is the human brain, Man's senses and all of our knowledge of the universe compared with that? We're talking an ant trying to figure out how a jet engine works, and then some.

[Chris]

At one time, different cultures explained the universe differently. Even now in science, there are many explanations. Science, itself, is tentative, incomplete and probabilistic. That doesn't mean the universe is a human/social construct, for then we, too, being in the universe would be a construct. No, all that demonstrates is how lacking we are in knowing the universe, how very much flawed our thinking is.