User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 11 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 108

Thread: Still not seeing a problem?

  1. #1
    Points: 21,919, Level: 35
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 31
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialTagger Second Class10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Helena's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    2323
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Posts
    3,128
    Points
    21,919
    Level
    35
    Thanks Given
    3,286
    Thanked 2,314x in 1,399 Posts
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Still not seeing a problem?

    https://www.npr.org/2018/11/14/66768...-charges?sc=tw

    The police officer who shot Finch did not face charges.
    "What gives the cops the right to open fire?" the victim's mother, Lisa Finch, said in January. "That cop murdered my son over a false report."

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Helena For This Useful Post:

    Dr. Who (11-14-2018),Ethereal (11-14-2018)

  3. #2
    Points: 445,632, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    Common's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    339120
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    66,766
    Points
    445,632
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    8,788
    Thanked 18,323x in 10,925 Posts
    Mentioned
    396 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    What I see is your lack of knowledge about police procedures and you taking an incident on the surface and ignoring all other facts. Apparently you are clouded by a dislike or hatred for Police.

    A man called in a serious crime in progress at a location, serious enough for the swat team to be ordered in. There is a major heigtened sense of urgency by police and adrenaline is moving. They are expecting the worst, saying its unfortunate they young man died doesnt seem powerful enough but I dont know how to put into words to make it sound as it should.

    Because the unarmed man was shot does not mean Police murdered him nor does it mean they did something wrong WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES into consideration. The person that murdered that young man is the young man that was charged with swatting. If investigations determined than an officer or officers did something wrong or criminal during the course of that shooting, they would be charged without hesitation.
    LETS GO BRANDON
    F Joe Biden

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Common For This Useful Post:

    Peter1469 (11-14-2018)

  5. #3
    Points: 21,919, Level: 35
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 31
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialTagger Second Class10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Helena's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    2323
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Posts
    3,128
    Points
    21,919
    Level
    35
    Thanks Given
    3,286
    Thanked 2,314x in 1,399 Posts
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The facts AREN'T that it wasn't a credible threat?

  6. #4
    Points: 43,805, Level: 51
    Level completed: 15%, Points required for next Level: 1,445
    Overall activity: 10.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Hoosier8's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    10215
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    13,717
    Points
    43,805
    Level
    51
    Thanks Given
    1,419
    Thanked 10,206x in 6,434 Posts
    Mentioned
    65 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    https://www.npr.org/2018/11/14/66768...-charges?sc=tw

    The police officer who shot Finch did not face charges.
    "What gives the cops the right to open fire?" the victim's mother, Lisa Finch, said in January. "That cop murdered my son over a false report."
    Key wording. False report. That’s why the police are not under fire.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Hoosier8 For This Useful Post:

    Captdon (11-15-2018)

  8. #5
    Points: 21,919, Level: 35
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 31
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialTagger Second Class10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Helena's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    2323
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Posts
    3,128
    Points
    21,919
    Level
    35
    Thanks Given
    3,286
    Thanked 2,314x in 1,399 Posts
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If it wasn't widely known that police use overkill in response to well, everything, swatting wouldn't be a problem, now would it?

  9. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Helena For This Useful Post:

    Ethereal (11-14-2018),Safety (11-14-2018)

  10. #6
    Points: 21,919, Level: 35
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 31
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialTagger Second Class10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Helena's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    2323
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Posts
    3,128
    Points
    21,919
    Level
    35
    Thanks Given
    3,286
    Thanked 2,314x in 1,399 Posts
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    https://pix11.com/2018/11/14/nypd-of...wing-accident/

    EMTs know
    "Guys hang on, hang on. Don't hurt him. We're on film," an EMT could be heard saying to the officer in question.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Helena For This Useful Post:

    Ethereal (11-14-2018)

  12. #7
    Points: 445,632, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    Common's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    339120
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    66,766
    Points
    445,632
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    8,788
    Thanked 18,323x in 10,925 Posts
    Mentioned
    396 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    If it wasn't widely known that police use overkill in response to well, everything, swatting wouldn't be a problem, now would it?
    Ok, Helena your bias has so clouded your judgement on anything police, I respectfully decline to discuss anything Police with you again.
    LETS GO BRANDON
    F Joe Biden

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Common For This Useful Post:

    Captdon (11-15-2018)

  14. #8
    Points: 21,919, Level: 35
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 31
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialTagger Second Class10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Helena's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    2323
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Posts
    3,128
    Points
    21,919
    Level
    35
    Thanks Given
    3,286
    Thanked 2,314x in 1,399 Posts
    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Ok, Helena your bias has so clouded your judgement on anything police, I respectfully decline to discuss anything Police with you again.
    I understand.

    Respectfully, there are some instances and videos out there that people jump all over police about, where I didn't see a problem with how some police handled certain situations.

    I believe I pointed one out on this forum, but I could be mistaken about that.

    On the whole, I truly believe that law enforcement in this country needs a complete overhaul.

    If you ever change your mind about any instances I post about in the future, and are willing to point out where the police went wrong, I won't hold it against you.

  15. #9
    Points: 175,370, Level: 99
    Level completed: 44%, Points required for next Level: 2,280
    Overall activity: 29.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranTagger First Class50000 Experience Points
    Dr. Who's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    870786
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Gallifrey
    Posts
    69,342
    Points
    175,370
    Level
    99
    Thanks Given
    12,938
    Thanked 13,049x in 8,897 Posts
    Mentioned
    207 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    What I see is your lack of knowledge about police procedures and you taking an incident on the surface and ignoring all other facts. Apparently you are clouded by a dislike or hatred for Police.

    A man called in a serious crime in progress at a location, serious enough for the swat team to be ordered in. There is a major heigtened sense of urgency by police and adrenaline is moving. They are expecting the worst, saying its unfortunate they young man died doesnt seem powerful enough but I dont know how to put into words to make it sound as it should.

    Because the unarmed man was shot does not mean Police murdered him nor does it mean they did something wrong WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES into consideration. The person that murdered that young man is the young man that was charged with swatting. If investigations determined than an officer or officers did something wrong or criminal during the course of that shooting, they would be charged without hesitation.
    Not to downplay the deplorable actions of that swatter, but is there no requirement to corroborate these kinds of calls?
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



    "The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
    Mahatma Gandhi

  16. #10
    Original Ranter
    Points: 863,459, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album picturesOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Peter1469's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    497475
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    NOVA
    Posts
    242,798
    Points
    863,459
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    153,665
    Thanked 148,485x in 94,934 Posts
    Mentioned
    2554 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    I understand.

    Respectfully, there are some instances and videos out there that people jump all over police about, where I didn't see a problem with how some police handled certain situations.

    I believe I pointed one out on this forum, but I could be mistaken about that.

    On the whole, I truly believe that law enforcement in this country needs a complete overhaul.

    If you ever change your mind about any instances I post about in the future, and are willing to point out where the police went wrong, I won't hold it against you.
    What sort of overhaul?
    ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ


+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts