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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    I believe the KJV is the Word of God and I don't need to go back to the Greek. So you can play word games all you want. You are trying to justify something He clearly said not to do.
    How is a translation of a translation commissioned several hundred years later by a gay English king more trustworthy than the original Greek?
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    Pretending the Bible isn't a factor here.

    *Steps out of reality*

    How does society profit from $#@! children?

    There is a mountain of data saying that children raised in a married relationship fair better than their broken home counterparts.

    Say what you will about the Bible or the translations of it. Not sleeping around seems to be its own benefit. Even better when you're actually married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    How is a translation of a translation commissioned several hundred years later by a gay English king more trustworthy than the original Greek?
    The king was a homo? Do tell!

    The Greeks were at least bi. Especially the Spartans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Pretending the Bible isn't a factor here.

    *Steps out of reality*

    How does society profit from $#@! children?

    There is a mountain of data saying that children raised in a married relationship fair better than their broken home counterparts.

    Say what you will about the Bible or the translations of it. Not sleeping around seems to be its own benefit. Even better when you're actually married.

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    Yes, that supports a cultural reason for society to encourage sex only in wedlock.

    Why not eat pork? In ~2000 BC only God knew about trichinosis. "Don't eat that pork fool"

    Trichinosis is a parasitic disease caused by roundworms of the Trichinella type.[1] During the initial infection, invasion of the intestines can result in diarrhea, abdominal pain, and vomiting.[1] Migration of larvae to muscle, which occurs about a week after being infected, can cause swelling of the face, inflammation of the whites of the eyes, fever, muscle pains, and a rash.[1] Minor infection may be without symptoms.[1]Complications may include inflammation of heart muscle, central nervous system involvement, and inflammation of the lungs.[1]

    Trichinosis is mainly spread when undercooked meat containing Trichinellacysts is eaten.[1] Most often this is pork but can also occur from bear and dog meat.[7] Several subtypes of Trichinella can cause disease with T. spiralis being the most common.[1] After being eaten the larvae are released from their cysts in the stomach.[1] They then invade the wall of the small intestine, where they develop into adult worms.[1] After one week, the females release new larvae that migrate to voluntarily controlled muscles where they form cysts.[1] The diagnosis is usually based on symptoms and confirmed by finding specific antibodies in the blood or larvae on tissue biopsy.[1]
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    So, as far as God - the eternal, all-powerful and omnipresent creator of the Universe - is concerned, a couple who have cohabited for fifty years, loving and respecting one another and rearing intelligent, caring children without benefit of a piece of paper from the government are sinners...but a couple of people who say "I do" in front of an Elvis impersonator in Vegas are on the right track? I have to believe this is one of those cases of Man attributing his own concerns and prejudices to the God he has constructed for himself and others. Love, care and commitment, both with regard to one's partner and to any children a couple may share, should be the measure of righteousness - not how closely one conforms to the societal expectations of the day and fills out the "right" paperwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    So, as far as God - the eternal, all-powerful and omnipresent creator of the Universe - is concerned, a couple who have cohabited for fifty years, loving and respecting one another and rearing intelligent, caring children without benefit of a piece of paper from the government are sinners...but a couple of people who say "I do" in front of an Elvis impersonator in Vegas are on the right track? I have to believe this is one of those cases of Man attributing his own concerns and prejudices to the God he has constructed for himself and others. Love, care and commitment, both with regard to one's partner and to any children a couple may share, should be the measure of righteousness - not how closely one conforms to the societal expectations of the day and fills out the "right" paperwork.
    IMO, god doesn't micro-mange. That is cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes, that supports a cultural reason for society to encourage sex only in wedlock.

    Why not eat pork? In ~2000 BC only God knew about trichinosis. "Don't eat that pork fool"
    The origins of this prohibition are obscure but it's unlikely to be related to health or disease. Israel's own neighbors ate plenty of pork. In fact, that may very well be part of the reason pork was forbidden.
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    There is no translation that allows for unmarried couple to have sex. Modern morality believes what it wants to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    Yes and the ones who did were chastised for it. The Bible is clear on this.
    Dang, that makes me a terrible Baptist!

    Why don't Baptists make love standing up?
    Might lead to dancing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    So, as far as God - the eternal, all-powerful and omnipresent creator of the Universe - is concerned, a couple who have cohabited for fifty years, loving and respecting one another and rearing intelligent, caring children without benefit of a piece of paper from the government are sinners...but a couple of people who say "I do" in front of an Elvis impersonator in Vegas are on the right track? I have to believe this is one of those cases of Man attributing his own concerns and prejudices to the God he has constructed for himself and others. Love, care and commitment, both with regard to one's partner and to any children a couple may share, should be the measure of righteousness - not how closely one conforms to the societal expectations of the day and fills out the "right" paperwork.
    Exactly where in the Bile does it say you have to be married by a priest, elder, chief ... Marriage is saying you are husband and wife as far I can see in scripture.

    I love how atheists try to say what the Bible says.
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