What is socialism?

[MMC]

Pretty much, yes. As Buford T. Justice said in Smokey and the Bandit: "She insulted my town! She insulted my son! She insulted my authority! And that's nothin' but pure and simple old-fashioned communism!"

Uhm Pretty much no.



Compare and contrast liberalism, conservatism, and socialism

https://nassirhassan.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/compare-and-contrast...
Nov 30, 2011 · Liberalism conservatism and socialism are social and political doctrines. Their views on society and how it is governed have evolved over the years although they have differences their main objective of leading society for the better remains the same, but they differ how to implement this.

[AZ Jim]

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I don't know all the fancy definitions, but what I do know is socialist governments are responsible for 100's of millions of dead in the last 100 years.

Supporting links?? ( I thought not)

[Standing Wolf]

Uhm Pretty much no....

I'm saying that I have observed self-identified conservatives calling things "socialism" that clearly were not. How can you say "no" to that?

Let me give you an example or two of what I'm referring to. I have heard (and seen) social conservatives calling legalized abortion "socialism". I have heard (and seen) social conservatives refer to the legalization of same-sex marriage as "socialism". I'm not suggesting that you would do so - but some people do. That's pretty much the entirety of the point I was making.

[jimmyz]

Can US public school systems be considered a socialist organization? They collect taxes from all whether you have school age children or not. The same goes for Medicare and Social Security.

[Common]

Clearly abortion and same sex marriage arent socialized programs.

Socialism is Universal Medical and Free College for all.

Liberals do not want to socialize america, that would mean all the elite liberals that make hundreds of millions would work for the govt for the same pay as you and I. Uh no, they want to socialize everything they can for EVERY other american, in their mind that makes everyone equal.

Instead what it does it takes away all opportunity to be successful away from everyone and reduces the quality of life for everyone instead of lifting or allowing the rest to lift their quality of life.

I say NO to the liberals wish list of what to socialize and what not too.

[MMC]

I'm saying that I have observed self-identified conservatives calling things "socialism" that clearly were not. How can you say "no" to that?

Let me give you an example or two of what I'm referring to. I have heard (and seen) social conservatives calling legalized abortion "socialism". I have heard (and seen) social conservatives refer to the legalization of same-sex marriage as "socialism". I'm not suggesting that you would do so - but some people do. That's pretty much the entirety of the point I was making.

Yet are they Leaders of the Conservatives? Those that Lead aren't the followers.


What you are saying is no different than illiberals that run around and call all on the Right racists. Liberals use to run around, talking about individuality until they started talking about it takes a village.

[Robo]

Conservatives frequently label things as being "socialism" that are clearly not. A society that has the means to, as an example, provide for free or subsidized healthcare, or college educations for its citizens and elects to do so, is not doing anything remotely "socialistic". One might just as easily call it "socialism" that a community has opted to fund a fire department instead of leaving it to each property owner to put out his or her own blazes. "Socialism" has, in many instances, simply become a poison label to influence people's thinking - an insult, really - signifying that something is being paid for with tax dollars that the speaker or writer does not believe to be a priority.

Taxpayer funding of a fire company is the very definition of socialism. The fire company's definition is a "SOCIAL SERVICE." As long as it was a volunteer company, it was a collective voluntary service supported by volunteers and voluntary donations. Once it was coopted by the government it became a socialist operation owned by government who's means of production was regulated by the government.

[Robo]

Can US public school systems be considered a socialist organization? They collect taxes from all whether you have school age children or not. The same goes for Medicare and Social Security.

Yes! Absolutely!

[Robo]

Clearly abortion and same sex marriage arent socialized programs.

Socialism is Universal Medical and Free College for all.

Liberals do not want to socialize america, that would mean all the elite liberals that make hundreds of millions would work for the govt for the same pay as you and I. Uh no, they want to socialize everything they can for EVERY other american, in their mind that makes everyone equal.

Instead what it does it takes away all opportunity to be successful away from everyone and reduces the quality of life for everyone instead of lifting or allowing the rest to lift their quality of life.

I say NO to the liberals wish list of what to socialize and what not too.

America is already socialized. Socialism and capitalism can only be measured in "degrees." Both in any absolute form are not even possible. Absolute socialism and or capitalism would both be absolute mob rule and total chaos.

[Chris]

I'm saying that I have observed self-identified conservatives calling things "socialism" that clearly were not. How can you say "no" to that?

Let me give you an example or two of what I'm referring to. I have heard (and seen) social conservatives calling legalized abortion "socialism". I have heard (and seen) social conservatives refer to the legalization of same-sex marriage as "socialism". I'm not suggesting that you would do so - but some people do. That's pretty much the entirety of the point I was making.

Then maybe you ought to argue with those, social conservatives? The term went out in the 90s.

None of those are socialism. They have nothing to do with the means of production unless marriage and having babies is mechanized like a factory.