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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    That's a problem. The nation is oddly divided. It's not divided geographically. It's not divided by class, not really. Not divided by natives v foreigners. It's divided in all sort of abstract ways.

    See my thread on pillarization perhaps.


    It's always partly class related. The kicker is that the middle class is split in two supporting two parties that don't support them

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    It's always partly class related. The kicker is that the middle class is split in two supporting two parties that don't support them
    The postmodern division of people by race, sex, sexual preference and so on is a neoMarxian derivative of Marx's classes.

    Both parties pretty much support the following: Tax the middle class, redistribute to the poor, who in turn buy goods from the rich. An oversimplification but still generally true.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Someone doesn't realize that Congress creates the law.
    Yeah, I think that someone is you.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
    --John Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    My point is we don't hold them accountable here so we certainly won't there. As optimistic as I try to be our lame ass society may be past the point of even trying to stop them.
    I am not sure what you are talking about here. What I was talking about in the OP is OUR democracy not some democracy somewhere else. I have realized that we can make changes. Everything we need to do it is already in place. We do not need to shed the blood of tyrants, we do not need anarchy, we do not need to bring civil war to our soil, and turn our nation into the middle east. All we need to do is what has been in front of us all along. It is so simple that it is silly. We already have a democracy in place to make our voices heard and to bring about the changes that we seek. There is a peaceful lawful means to end corruption.

    We can only do it if everyone participates. Our nation has come to a point of great turmoil and because of this we can no longer idly sit by and watch our nation be destroyed. It is time for each of us to step in and reclaim our democracy. We need voter reform. We can do this! We need to get rid of citizens united. We need to get rid of all corruption, and make the sale of our nation, and politicians illegal! It is time that we just no longer stand down and allow thieves of democracy to steal our voice and thereby steal our nation.

    We can no longer stand idle while they destroy everything all for the mighty dollar. Some things are more important than money. No life in this world should be traded for profit. Corruption has taken hold in such a way that even the thought of genocide is acceptable to some, as long as it ensures our prosperity. This is the most absurd animal like low mentality that there can be. Anyone who thinks the slaughter of a child is acceptable for the trade of money is no longer a human being but rather has become an animal or a monster.

    It is time we all do our part and hold our gov accountable. We start at the bottom each district holds their rep accountable. I myself am already working with my reps. I suggest you all do the same. Believe me they are just human beings. But some of them really do want to do what is right, and they also want our nation to be restored. If each of us did this, if every single district held their reps feet to the fire, it would change this nation from the ground up. But it would require all of us to do our part. It is not hard.

    We don't have to try to change the whole thing just each of us focus on our own district and soon it will be the whole nation, it is really simple. It can be done, and I believe it will.
    We are all brothers and sisters in humanity. We are all made from the same dust of stars. We cannot be separated because all life is interconnected.

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    I did my part by voting for Donald Trump.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yeah, I think that someone is you.
    You are not aware that Congress writes the laws?
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    Someone, doesn't realize, a lot of things.
    Yes, and that someone is YOU!
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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    Who legislates? It is no longer the Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    You are not aware that Congress writes the laws?
    Congress writes only a small portion of the laws. Most are written by the Executive Branch. Almost all the rest are written by unaccountable judges.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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