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    We have put Saudi first for way too long it should end

    Trump is not the first but we should make him the last!


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    As I keep saying the Royal Family has too much dirt on too many of our politicians

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    As I keep saying the Royal Family has too much dirt on too many of our politicians
    So, President Trump is just another heist placed there by 'the' system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    As I keep saying the Royal Family has too much dirt on too many of our politicians
    You offer no proof.
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    It is weird how presidents of both parties treat them like demigods.

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    We can have an honest national debate about what US interests are in the Middle East then ask our leaders to create policies to advance and protect those interests.

    Currently the Middle East in embroiled in what is essentially a 1400+ year war between Sunnis and Shiites. Whatever our policy is it should be based on that fact. Currently we are focused on the artificial states created after WWI and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We can have an honest national debate about what US interests are in the Middle East then ask our leaders to create policies to advance and protect those interests.

    Currently the Middle East in embroiled in what is essentially a 1400+ year war between Sunnis and Shiites. Whatever our policy is it should be based on that fact. Currently we are focused on the artificial states created after WWI and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire.
    The Paris peace accords of 1919 created a lot of these problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The Paris peace accords of 1919 created a lot of these problems.
    And the Middle East was covered in a side meeting that those accords- the Sykes-Picot Treaty.

    But you are right. Current leaders are acting within constraints placed upon them long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    So, President Trump is just another heist placed there by 'the' system.
    No, but he is bound to placate the Saudis or the real goals of outME policy over the past several decades could be released with proof. And even the sheepish public of today would lose confidence in the government/donkephant almost instantly if that happened.

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    We have not put Saudi Arabia first. We just realize that the Middle East is a region where we do have a national interest and Saudi Arabia can help advance those interests. In reality, we are putting America first first by creating an alliance with the Saudis.

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