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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    I suppose you could say that I 'support emasculation', but only in the sense that I oppose masculinity, which is in the same sense that I oppose femininity: I view gender (defining social roles for men and women) as an intrinsically restrictive social construct that exists to ensure men remain socially dominant. I think people should just be real; that they should just be their individual selves, not a performance of dominance (masculinity, as we gender-code it) or of submissiveness (femininity, as we gender-code it). Gender is an act, not a reality. Only people's biological sex actually exists.

    That's my view of the matter.



    I have employed some general, non-specific labels here for the sake of establishing some basic clarity, not to dehumanize anyone.
    1. So, for clarity's sake, you want men to become women.
    2. your "labels" are derogatory and spiteful, intentionally
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    I loathe the idea of banning or silencing people because of political ideology. I see it happening and it bothers me tremendously. I hedge on that where ISIS or the like are concerned. I strongly disagree with emotionally labeling people -- for example, suggesting, stating and strongly believing that someone is for Female Genital Mutilation because they voted for Trump. That's just me, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    1. So, for clarity's sake, you want men to become women.
    2. your "labels" are derogatory and spiteful, intentionally
    1. Yes, that's exactly what I just said.

    Seriously though, one does not 'become a woman'. It is not a choice or an alterable condition. What I have suggested is that people should be allowed to just be individuals rather than socially prescribed performances of 'how men are supposed to be' and 'how women are supposed to be'.

    2. Show me an example of a "derogatory and spiteful" application that I have employed on this thread because I'm not seeing it.
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    Emasculating boys harms society. Without positive male and female role models we see more crime, not less. We see more violence, not less.

    And extreme example is found in Sunni Islam. They separate the sexes (as opposed to emasculate the males) so younger generations have a stilted view of positive male and female role models. It directly led to easily radicalized fodder for militant Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    I suppose you could say that I 'support emasculation', but only in the sense that I oppose masculinity, which is in the same sense that I oppose femininity: I view gender (defining social roles for men and women) as an intrinsically restrictive social construct that exists to ensure men remain socially dominant. I think people should just be real; that they should just be their individual selves, not a performance of dominance (masculinity, as we gender-code it) or of submissiveness (femininity, as we gender-code it). Gender is an act, not a reality. Only people's biological sex actually exists.

    That's my view of the matter.



    I have employed some general, non-specific labels here for the sake of establishing some basic clarity, not to dehumanize anyone.

    I view gender (defining social roles for men and women) as an intrinsically restrictive social construct that exists to ensure men remain socially dominant. I think people should just be real; that they should just be their individual selves, not a performance of dominance (masculinity, as we gender-code it) or of submissiveness (femininity, as we gender-code it). Gender is an act, not a reality.
    Here, for anyone interested, are the views of Dr. Debra Soh, Neuroscientist, on the above. Jump to the 25 minute mark. According to science, gender is binary and not a social construct as the postmoderns would have it.

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    Radical feminists want to eradicate masculinity. Isn't that sexism?
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I loathe the idea of banning or silencing people because of political ideology. I see it happening and it bothers me tremendously. I hedge on that where ISIS or the like are concerned. I strongly disagree with emotionally labeling people -- for example, suggesting, stating and strongly believing that someone is for Female Genital Mutilation because they voted for Trump. That's just me, though.
    Polly is not DGUtley your friend too. I think we are all friends here. I know you guys had a spat in the FGM thread, but I can tell you two are friends.

    BTW it is too late for you. You have been brain washed in the true tradition of Mao.. It is hard when you get a glimse of the light through the fog the Maoist have put there for you...it clouds the real world and that is the intent
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    Here's Dr Soh again, briefer:

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    I tire of hearing women in the west whine about how they are treated. There is no issue with women, women's rights,, how they are treated. We need to focus on our boys and men. They are by far struggling the most.

    Making them in to wussies has not work. Time to MAN UP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    I haven't traditionally been very open to such ideas. That's a fair assessment. To be honest, I'm not really feeling that open to them now either, but I am willing to offer a listening ear anew if rightists are now willing to do the same.
    Listening ear? Who cares about that? If you are pro-choice I don't need to hear it or speak about it. You are what you are. There's no longer a middle ground. That's a fact.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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