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View Poll Results: What is the MAIN cause of California's recent wildfires, in your opinion?

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  • Private ownership of California's energy sector. <-- THE RIGHT ANSWER.

    3 60.00%
  • Recent budget cuts to state and local fire-prevention services in California.

    3 60.00%
  • The unusually dry conditions resulting from global warming.

    3 60.00%
  • Lack of underground shelters. (Source: California Governor Jerry Brown)

    0 0%
  • Lack of raking. (Source: President Donald Trump)

    0 0%
  • Democrats shooting lasers from space. (Source: Info Wars)

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Thread: Poll: What Caused the California Wildfires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    None of the above, unseasonably high winds all summer.

    The rest is fudge.
    Right, the fed and state governments fudged it. They should have allowed controlled burns. They didn't in order to save endangered species. Now endangered species and other species including humans have died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    So California has just endured the deadliest wildfires in the history of that state and people want to know the cause. I feel that the technical cause was likely some combination of private ownership of the state's energy sector yielding a lack of concern with the public's basic safety and well-being in the area of fire prevention (e.g. the damaged power line that reportedly started the first blaze was owned by PG&E, which has amassed a long record of safety code violations that have cost them huge volumes of money in lawsuits) and recent budget cuts to California's state and local fire prevention services in the name of balancing budgets that were only out of balance in the first place because of corporate tax giveaways, but that this situation was exacerbated by global artificial warming leading to dryer-than-usual conditions.

    I find it absurd that the government of California responded by committing to protecting PG&E's solvency above the public safety. They actually will now be allowed to compensate for any legal damages they may incur as a result of this catastrophe by hiking the rates of their customers! Seriously? Yes, seriously! They can (almost certainly, even state authorities themselves seem to believe) cause a catastrophe like this and then charge their victims for the associated legal costs! Un-$#@!ing-believable. It shows you just how little difference there can be between having a Republican governor and a Democratic one sometimes.

    What do you think is the real cause of this IMO very unnatural disaster?
    Putting aside all the politics; brush fires are normally caused by: carelessness, Lightning, glass and arson (intentionally set). Keep in mind the word "normally" since I'm sure we could come up with other reasons why, but the above normally are how brush fires start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    None of the above, unseasonably high winds all summer.

    The rest is fudge.
    Nope high winds have no affect if theres nothing to burn. Underbrush burns fast and furious and as long as theres more underbrush it just grows and sets the trees on fire as it goes along.

    Trees without underbrush burn but much slower and are easy to put out. Dry underbrush most certainly caused that insane fire
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    Putting aside all the politics; brush fires are normally caused by: carelessness, Lightning, glass and arson (intentionally set). Keep in mind the word "normally" since I'm sure we could come up with other reasons why, but the above normally are how brush fires start.
    That is how they start, but not how they grow.

    The state for sure, and probably the feds created the situation that led to this catastrophe. Simple clearing of deadfall and controlled burns could have prevented this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Nope high winds have no affect if theres nothing to burn. Underbrush burns fast and furious and as long as theres more underbrush it just grows and sets the trees on fire as it goes along.

    Trees without underbrush burn but much slower and are easy to put out. Dry underbrush most certainly caused that insane fire
    You're full of $#@! but I still love you like a dad.

    Where are you at now, Florida?

    I'm smack in the middle of all of this, we we're surrounded by wildfires all summer, two just miles from us. The valley we live in was for weeks thick with smoke from them.

    I know and talk to people fighting them, first hand.

    For the sake of repeating myself it was an unusually highly windy season that led to so many and such big fires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    You're full of $#@! but I still love you like a dad.

    Where are you at now, Florida?

    I'm smack in the middle of all of this, we we're surrounded by wildfires all summer, two just miles from us. The valley we live in was for weeks thick with smoke from them.

    I know and talk to people fighting them, first hand.

    For the sake of repeating myself it was an unusually highly windy season that led to so many and such big fires.
    It was environmentalists. Members of the Sierra Club. Californians. Without them, the wind would be immaterial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It was environmentalists. Members of the Sierra Club. Californians. Without them, the wind would be immaterial.
    I know that's the RW radio, partisan hack line that you and the rest of the drooling idiot partisan hacks want to believe so don't let me stop you.

    For anyone who is interested from someone in the middle of all of it, it was as I described. Nobody except hacks and fools thousands of miles away knowing $#@! about $#@! is making this a political issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    You're full of $#@! but I still love you like a dad.

    Where are you at now, Florida?

    I'm smack in the middle of all of this, we we're surrounded by wildfires all summer, two just miles from us. The valley we live in was for weeks thick with smoke from them.

    I know and talk to people fighting them, first hand.

    For the sake of repeating myself it was an unusually highly windy season that led to so many and such big fires.
    They have controlled burns in fla CONSTANTLY to avoid what happened in california, california burned the way it did because underbrush furiously spread and ignited anything in its path including structures

    If Fla didnt have controlled burns same thing would happen here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    They have controlled burns in fla CONSTANTLY to avoid what happened in california, california burned the way it did because underbrush furiously spread and ignited anything in its path including structures

    If Fla didnt have controlled burns same thing would happen here.
    Why all of the sudden now?

    High winds.

    This is junk you're hearing from political hacks.

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